Season 5 Episode 42

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[00:00:00] Tammy Uzelac Hall: Gentile, Israelite, Hebrew, House of Israel, and Jew. These are all proper nouns which appear as groups throughout 3rd Nephi because Jesus has a message for every single one of them. Which group do you belong to? And what is Jesus's message for you? Well, today as we begin our study of 3 Nephi chapters 20 through 26, we're going to define each of these groups and find out what Jesus wants our group to know, what he wants our group to get, What he wants our group to wear and what he wants our group to do so that we can all receive the promise for each of us.

If we follow through with the things we've been asked to do, welcome to the Sunday and Monday study group, a desert bookshelf plus original brought to you by LDS living, where we take the come follow me lesson for the week. And we really did the end of the scriptures together. I'm your host, Tammy Uzelac Hall.

If you're new to our study group, please follow the link in the description. In our description, that's going to explain how you can best use this podcast to enhance your come follow me study, just like my friend, Mary and Reese Hayes. Hello friends. Okay. Now my favorite thing about this study group is each week we're joined by two of my friends.

So it's always a little bit different each week. And today we have my good dear friends who I adore Jalyn Peterson and Diane Gerdy Iman. Hello ladies.

[00:01:18] Diane Gerdy Iman: Hello, Tam.

[00:01:19] Jalyn Peterson: Hey, Tam. We were just reminiscing that, um, Diane and I were on the podcast back in early days right when COVID started and we all sat in a room six feet apart and, and I think it's been virtual ever since.

[00:01:34] Tammy Uzelac Hall: Yes. I think we decided that was the last live in person episode we recorded. Yeah. Nuts. It is nuts.

[00:01:42] Diane Gerdy Iman: I remember we were so far away from each other, right? We had our treats and everything and we couldn't touch and I wanted to hug everybody and I couldn't. I remember that. Sure.

[00:01:54] Tammy Uzelac Hall: I think there's a picture floating out there somewhere of that moment because our old producer took a picture. I'm going to find it in our show notes because it's wild and we have everything covered in plastic and yeah, tons of. Do you remember that we had to cover all the tables in plastic and we had to have hand sanitizer at every single table?

[00:02:13] Diane Gerdy Iman: I think I have a picture. I'll see if I do.

[00:02:16] Tammy Uzelac Hall: Please do. Share that picture. Oh my gosh. That's going to be fun. Yeah. So we've been friends for years. We've been doing this forever. It feels like. Good times. Love you girls. Oh, honestly, it's just a love fest. The three of us, when we got on, we were like, Oh, we love you. And Jalyn, we got to see Jalyn this summer. That was so much fun for those of you that joined us for our Summer of Joy event.

What'd you think about it, Jalyn?

[00:02:40] Jalyn Peterson: That was so much fun, and I couldn't believe, like, you know, the number of people that just showed up in support. I mean, I met a, there was a couple that drove down from Idaho just for that, um, and there was someone who, she's actually from Memphis and now lives there, and so we got to talk a lot.

Like, it was, I just couldn't believe the support of other people. Um, it was just really fun to get to meet everybody and to see a bunch of people who've already who've been on the show Like there as well. It was just it was a great event

[00:03:14] Tammy Uzelac Hall: And then I got to meet your sisters. That was so fun and sister in law. How much do we love? Give them a little shout out.

[00:03:20] Jalyn Peterson: Uh, shout out to Jen and Trudy who showed up for me And both were big winners in the drawing That's right. They both won. Yeah, one won your book and one won Tamu's book.

[00:03:33] Tammy Uzelac Hall: Oh, that's right Oh, it was so fun. It was the best way to end a summer of joy because it was just filled with so much joy.

Okay, ladies, well, we are going to have a great discussion. Listen, if you're listening and you want to know more about Jalyn or Diane, you can read their bios and see pictures of them in our show notes, which are at ldsliving. com slash Sunday on Monday. So go check it out. Then you can learn about them. But what we want you to do is We have some instructions for today's episode. Grab your scriptures. Of course, you're also going to need a piece of paper, an eight and a half by 11 blank piece of paper, a pencil, some colored pencils, and we are going to dig in together to third Nephi chapters 20 through 26.

Before I even ask you what the Holy Ghost taught you, first, I want you to tell me what were your original thoughts about these chapters as you were reading them?

[00:04:18] Jalyn Peterson: These, these chapters are tough for me, right? So, like, any time it says refer to Isaiah, I've admitted this before, I'm like, what are we talking about?

The minute I start reading it, I'm like, oh, we're, there's something about Isaiah here. We're, we're re quoting Isaiah. I mean, they're just really the dense, it's not to me like the, It's a fun part of Christ's sermon when he returns where I'm like, Oh yeah, but there were so many things in there that I'm like, Oh, I didn't realize like just the thing you remember of like he said, and the importance of some of those things.

So,

[00:04:57] Tammy Uzelac Hall: and I liked that you were so honest about that. You're like, this was dense. This was hard stuff and you hit the nail on the head. Isaiah, it's not fascinating of all the things that the savior could say to the people. He's going to repeat Isaiah. And then how he says, great are the words of Isaiah.

[00:05:12] Jalyn Peterson: Wow.

But then the part that I kind of learned, re learned as well, is that then he said, he knows what's in the record already, but then he says, hey, you didn't write down what Samuel the Lamanite said. You need to write those down. And then also. The book of Malachi. They would have never had the book of Malachi, which I didn't even think about that.

And he quoted that to them of how important that was. So, um, I mean, obviously it's like, wow, that, I mean, if he's just saying like better write down what he said and quoted that whole other book along with Isaiah, very, um, yeah, very important. Yes. Thank you. Okay. So tell me what the Holy Ghost taught you guys.

[00:05:59] Diane Gerdy Iman: So for me, one. I, I loved these chapters as I've been studying this week, um, and they took on a whole new meaning to me, um, as I've studied them this time. So I lost my best friend and, um, who was my dad about a month ago. And as I've studied these passages, these chapters over the past while they hit me in a different way than they ever have before, as.

I learned so much about our Heavenly Father and how He keeps His promises. And I loved when it talked about how there's a verse that is repeated in all of the Standard Works, which I think is pretty rad.

[00:06:51] Tammy Uzelac Hall: Oh, that's important then. What is it?

[00:06:54] Diane Gerdy Iman: And this is, um, it says, Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord.

And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse..

And I love President Faust said we do not consciously realize the extent to which ministering angels affect our lives. Their ministry has been an important part of the gospel. And I think a lot about how different I'm looking at temple work and my own life now that I have lost both of my parents and with my own life in general, that where it says that the hearts of the fathers will be turned to their children.

And I am just seeing that. My parents, they were so vested in me and my sisters and my children and my husband when they were on the earth that I just, there's no way that they wouldn't be so vested in my life and our lives now when they're not on the earth. And it just brings me such comfort to know that these heavenly messengers are still there to minister to all of us.

And, um, I just. It brings me such comfort to know that they are dispatched to assist us as Sister Nelson has said.

[00:08:40] Tammy Uzelac Hall: Diane, thank you and thank you for the true life application of those two verses because like you said, they're in all the standard works. We've, we know them, we're familiar with them, but you just applied them.

So thank you for doing that. It, and especially the idea where they're dispatched to assist us. I'm so thankful you pointed that out. I was at the temple last week with my friend Holly and we were at the prayer roll and she looked at me, she goes, sometimes I wonder why we even do this. I thought, yeah, it's a good point.

It's nice for us. And then I said, but you know what? I remember a stake president. When I was single in a and serving in the single scene back in the day, I had a state president say, the moment you put a name on the prayer roll, an angel on the other side of the veil is assigned to that person. Now listen, I don't know if that's true.

Oh, I love that. I'd like to believe it sounds good to me. And she goes, yes it does. I'm writing everyone I know. , we just wrote names. Amen. It's like I think of a lot of people that like there. I love that Right. Dispatch to assist us. I dunno if it's true, but I'd like to think it is. So I love that. Thank you Diane.

[00:09:39] Jalyn Peterson: Yeah, sorry, there are with other religions as well, where they're a lot more conscious in that. Like I had a girl, she went to a Christian school, I can't remember what denomination. She said that the teacher would, the professor would get up and they would say a prayer before class, much like we did at BYU, right?

But before they did that, the professor would say, who needs. Who do we need to pray for today? And so people would raise their hands. And so whomever prayed, right? Like remembered all that. And my, my friend, Heather, shout out to the Bloomster. She will, anytime I'm struggling, she will call around to like, she'll be like, okay.

Um, I figured the first temple to open today is in Japan. So I put your name in that temple, or I know that you lived in Hawaii and you love that. So I put your name in that temple. So like, she's very like, it's so great that like, you know, she's just was very conscious of like, here's the temple I think is the best one for you today.

So like, it's kind of sweet. Yeah. A little

[00:10:53] Tammy Uzelac Hall: Heather. Heather, if you're listening, put me on that list. Yeah. Okay. Jalyn, what did you learn about the Holy Ghost teach you?

[00:11:00] Jalyn Peterson: Well, so it was, it was actually along that same with that same scripture in that, um, I'd never really, I sat and pondered about like, what does that mean to turn the hearts of the, Fathers to the children.

I mean, we so get, like, I so get the, um, children tos, their fathers, right? Because that's temple work and that's Mm-Hmm. You know, honoring them and all of that. And I'm like, okay, so did this, why, why wouldn't the fathers already, their hearts already be tuned to that? I remember when my parents were still in the temple, they weren't originally, I was.

My mom was pregnant with my little sister and I was probably four, three or four years old when we went and got to go around the altar. But I, I think like if, if you're not looking at it with a celestial perspective and having God be part of your, your familiar relationship, right? That There's, I mean, you think about parents today, there's a lot of parents that we do a lot of stuff for kids, but is it really our hearts turn to them for their eternal salvation?

But I also didn't know this, Elijah, you guys are going to go, yeah, dojo and everybody knew that, that Elijah came to the Kirtland temple. On the 3rd of April, which was exactly the Passover when all of Jerusalem would have had a chair there for Elijah to show up to the Passover dinner, and he did come. It was in the Kirtland Temple.

Like, I didn't realize the date was the same. I'd never like Isn't that amazing? Yeah. I had, I, I never like put the two and two together. So I was like, Oh my word, that's amazing.

[00:12:51] Tammy Uzelac Hall: In fact, if you want to cross reference next to verse six, put doctrine and covenant section 110 D&C, 110 I can't wait till we get there next year because that's the revelation of when he comes of the whole thing.

How it happens. It's really neat. I love that you pointed that out. Yeah. Okay. So Julie, I'm going to ask this follow up question then because you brought it up. You said you were at the altar with your parents and they were being sealed. Okay. Your dad passed away when you were younger. Mm hmm. And. So now, how does this apply to you?

Do you feel that your father's heart has been turned toward you?

[00:13:25] Jalyn Peterson: Oh, absolutely. In fact, the day my dad died, my dad, he was so smart about the gospel. Like, he was very knowledgeable about the gospel, but he had a word of wisdom. problem. He grew up in an alcoholic household. He started smoking at a very young age, like, and he quit for a while, right?

When we, and that's when we went through the temple. But you know, one of the, one of the things we were so grateful for about it is that when we got married in the temple, you know, if our dad was still struggling with the word of wisdom, he wouldn't have been able to be there. But now that he's on the other side, like I have full faith that, that anytime my siblings have gone to the temple.

Their kids have gone to the temple, and in so many ways, I feel much closer to my father now than I did when he was on the earth, because I do believe that like, you know, he was a truck driver, he was gone a lot, he was providing for the family, right? But I just feel his presence with me so much more often.

Then I did when he was physically there. My life has been blessed. And I think he's very consciously taking care of all of us. And I feel that. I I really sense that. There's just that comfort.

[00:14:48] Tammy Uzelac Hall: Absolutely. And I think that comfort comes by way of this right here, the, the, the power of Elijah and how grateful we are for that.

Now I did not at all tell these two what we were talking about today. They really, this is probably the most blind episode we've had. I threw him a few questions, but there's a lot they don't know. So there's no way you could have known that I needed you to talk about these two verses in order for this whole episode to make sense.

This is the greatest thing ever. The spirit is so strong and I cannot wait to show you what we're going to do next because this whole Section 3rd Nephi 20 through 26 is really about how we can truly grasp on to this promise that the hearts of the children will turn to the fathers and the hearts of the fathers will turn to their children and how to avoid this curse.

That's what this whole episode is about. So in the next segment, we're going to draw something that's going to help us understand what this is all about. We'll do that next.

Segment 2

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[00:15:51] Tammy Uzelac Hall: Okay, grab a blank piece of paper and a pencil and it needs to be an eight and a half by eleven. That's going to be the easiest if it is because you're going to want a lot of room to write things. Boy, I really hope this works. Let's see if my describing skills. I feel like I'm on some kind of a show where if I can describe it perfectly, we win a million dollars.

Yes. If you can draw what I'm saying, describing to you, we're winners. Okay. So you're going to want your piece of paper to be landscape, not portrait. Landscapes. So longwise. Does that make sense?

[00:16:21] Jalyn Peterson: Hot dog. Is this hot dog? Hot dog versus what? I did not know.

[00:16:26] Tammy Uzelac Hall: This is hamburger. I don't know which one. I think that's hamburger. Hot dogs is long wise, hamburger is fat. Yes. Okay. You want it to be a land. You do not want it to be portrait. You want it to be landscape, fat wise. There you go. So turn your paper so it's that way. And now follow my directions with a pen. Here we go, because I'm going to help us draw a chart that's going to help us understand 3rd Nephi 20 through 26, so it all makes sense.

Okay, at the very top of the page, leave about two fingers worth of space, just a little bit, and then come down and I want you to write the name Abraham. And that's it, just write his name in the middle of the paper, come down a little bit from the top and just write Abraham. Then underneath Abraham, draw a small little vertical line that looks like a genealogy line, and connect it to this next name, his son.

So right down underneath it, Isaac, then underneath Isaac, again, another little genealogy line, and you're going to write Isaac's son's name, which is Jacob.

Now, right to the side of Jacob, I want you to draw a little equal sign and you're going to write the new name he received in the book of Genesis, which is Israel. So Jacob's name has changed to Israel. Okay, now go back to Jacob. We're going to do another little vertical line. We're not going to write his son's name.

We're going to draw a very long line, so we can put all 12 of his son's names. So, underneath the little genealogy line of Jacob's name, draw a long horizontal line, and then 12 little genealogy lines coming off of that. So, yeah, notch, little 12, 12 little notches all along that line.

And we're going to put just the first initial, or if you want to write out the name, you can, But for time sake, I'm going to give you just the first initial of each one of the sons. So the very first little line, you're going to put an R for Reuben. The next son is Simeon, so S, then Levi, then Judah, so Reuben, Simeon, Levi, Judah, D for Dan, N for Naphtali, then the letter G for Gad, then the letter A for Asher, then the letter I for Issachar.

Then the letter Z for Zebulon, then the letter J for Joseph, and then the letter B for Benjamin. And then somewhere underneath all those boys names, just write Dinah. We don't want to forget they have a sister. She has a great story. We don't have time for that today, but let's make sure we include Dinah.

Okay, now, you have all of that. And here's what I think is so cool. So now what you're gonna do is you're gonna draw a house around all of it. So go clear back up to the top where Abraham is and give me a pitched roof, the very top of Abraham's name in the middle. Draw one line down on the left, one down si a diagonal line on the right to give me a roof.

And then draw two sides to the house. Two vertical sides connecting to the roof so that you're putting everybody inside of this house. And up to the side, I drew a little chimney. I may have put doors, maybe some windows on the inside, some bushes around the side, you know.

Okay. Let me see what you got. Show me your house. I'll show you mine. There's mine. Putting a wreath on my door. Hold on. Oh, I like that. Nice job, Jalyn. Good thing. Okay. Now, for anyone listening who felt like your drawing wasn't good enough, don't worry. We're going to include a free, a free printout. If you just go to our show notes, I have a nice one that I drew myself, so you can just print that out and follow the directions on here so you have it, but I really like what you guys have drawn.

Now, at the very bottom of your house, I want you to put this term. This is the house of Israel. So, anytime you read about the house of Israel in scriptures, and I've said this before, and I'm never going to tire of having us draw this, I really used to think it was a house in Israel that some guy lived in, and we were going to meet him when Jesus came.

I'm not exaggerating. I had no idea what house in Israel meant.

[00:20:47] Jalyn Peterson: That is hilarity. That's really funny.

[00:20:50] Tammy Uzelac Hall: And it's, it's true. And I was like, what is the house of Israel? Okay, this is the house of Israel. Now, we're going to read a couple of verses of scripture about this house of Israel. We're going to talk about it this whole time.

Let's go to 3rd Nephi chapter 20 and we're going to read verse 10. Here we go. 3rd Nephi chapter 20 verse 10. You're going to see house of Israel a lot in these chapters. And this is where it first starts. Jalyn, will you read verse 10 for us? Now, by the way, this is such a good story because the savior, he provides bread and wine miraculously is what it says in the section heading out of nowhere, bread and wine.

And he does a second sacrament with everybody. Because again, the first time they did it was the first time they've ever done it since the law of Moses. So he's going to show them, let me show you again how this is done so you don't forget. And now he's going to teach the importance of this sacrament to the house of Israel.

So go ahead.

[00:21:44] Jalyn Peterson: And it came to pass that when they had all given glory unto Jesus, he said unto them, Behold, now I finished the commandment which the father hath commanded me concerning this people who are remnant of the house of Israel.

[00:21:58] Tammy Uzelac Hall: Now go to verse 12. We're to go down there. I want you to highlight at the end.

It says house of Israel. He says, verily, verily, I say unto you that when they shall be fulfilled, then is the fulfilling of the covenant, which the father hath made unto his people, O house of Israel. Turn the page. There's another reference for house of Israel in verse 21. And I shall come to pass that I will establish my people, O house of Israel.

Okay. There's a lot of comment and talk about the house of Israel right here. And in this lesson this week, we are going to fill in the drawing that you guys made with some answers to who is the house of Israel? What do they get? What are they supposed to wear? Ooh, aren't you intrigued by that? Yes. What will they do?

Yes. And what's the promise for everyone who belongs to this house? So first of all, who in the world is the house of Israel? This is going to come in very handy when you get to third Nephi chapter 29. Just FYI, you want to know who the house of Israel is. And I have this awesome quote. Here we go. Diane, can you read this for us, please?

[00:23:00] Diane Gerdy Iman: You bet. The Nephites and Lamanites were literal descendants of Israel, a branch of the tree of Israel, and yet they felt lost from its body. But the Savior wanted them to know that they were not lost to him. Ye are of the house of Israel, he said, and ye are of the covenant. He might say something similar to you today, for anyone who is baptized and makes covenants with him is also of the house of Israel.

of the covenant. In other words, when Jesus speaks of the house of Israel, he is talking about you.

[00:23:40] Tammy Uzelac Hall: Very good. So where you have house of Israel on your picture, put an equal sign and put me every time you read about the house of Israel in the scriptures, your ear should perk up because it's a message for you.

Remember the book of Mormon is written for our time. Now I'm going to define a couple of these terms for us. So let's go back into third Nephi chapter 20 and look at verse 15. Read, Diane, read verse 15.

[00:24:03] Diane Gerdy Iman: And I say unto you, that if the Gentiles do not repent after the blessing which they shall receive after they have scattered my people,

[00:24:13] Tammy Uzelac Hall: Mark, take the word Gentile and put that underneath house of Israel.

Let's define the word Gentile. A Gentile is an unbelieving neighbor outside of the covenant. They have not yet been baptized. It's those who live without the gospel. So that's what you want to know about a Gentile, an unbelieving neighbor. I like the way that the book that I've been studying puts that, an unbelieving neighbor, just somebody who hasn't made the covenant yet and been baptized into the house of Israel.

Okay, so now let's define what the word Israel is or Israelite, because you're going to see that a lot in these scriptures. So underneath Gentile, put Israelite. I'm just going to give you a couple more words. Thanks. Thanks. That will help you as you study an Israelite are those who descend from the man, Israel and his 12 sons.

So a direct line to Ruben, Simeon, Levi, Judah, Dan, Naphtali, any one of those. So in Old Testament times and New Testament times, descendants of any of the tribes of Israel then living in the land of Israel or in the land of Judah, though, were known collectively as Jews. So that's kind of, you want to know that about scripture.

Now, when we are adopted into the house of Israel through baptism and we turn to a teenager and we get our patriarchal blessing. The most important part of your patriarchal blessing is to be declared what tribe you belong to, what tribe you're adopted into, and we could spend hours on patriarchal blessings.

What tribe are you two from? Ephraim. Ephraim. That's the tribe I've been assigned to as well, that I come from. Brigham Young teaches great things about it, that he believes it's a direct flow of blood. through your genealogy, but you can have a family, you can, if I know of a family where people are from Ephraim and their son's from Judah.

So it's just cool. You want to be assigned to one of those tribes so you can receive all the blessings, which we'll talk about. Go ahead, Jolynn. I didn't, it's Joseph, right? That had. Yes. Thank you for pointing that out. So under Joseph, under the J, do a little care, a little V and put Ephraim and Manasseh.

Yes. Thank you. How can we forget that? Okay, now we'll talk about the Jews. So here are who the Jews are. Those strictly speaking are literal descendants of the tribe of Judah. So you see up there where we did a J at the beginning. But in later times, those who descended from the tribes of Ephraim and Manasseh and Levi, they were also generally known as Jews.

So all Jews were Israelites because they come from the house of Israel, but not all Israelites are Jews. Does that make sense? Okay. Then there's one more term, and you can put this somewhere on your paper, a Hebrew, because often you'll hear that. Who are the Hebrews? A Hebrew is someone who descends directly from Abraham.

So the Israelites are one important branch of this posterity, but they're not the only branch because we also have Ishmaelites, Midianites, and other descendants who come from Abraham. Today they're known as Arabs. I think that's pretty interesting. So Israelites, which are the covenant brand of branch of Abraham are Hebrews, but not all Hebrews are Israelites. Does that make sense? So people who came from the line of Abraham are generally spoken of as Hebrews. So it could be Ishmaelites, Midianites, Arab people, and Israelites.

[00:27:28] Jalyn Peterson: I feel we need a Venn diagram.

[00:27:30] Tammy Uzelac Hall: Yeah. Totally. Venn diagram. Then I went through and defined each thing, and then I go, oh, okay, that totally makes sense because all the Israelites, Yes, all Israelites are Hebrews because they all come from the line of Abraham, but not all Hebrews are going to be Israelites because some are going to be Ishmaelites, Midianites, all of that.

Then you have all Jews are Israelites. Sure. The tribe of Judah comes from Israel or Jacob, but not all Israelites are Jews because you have some who are Reuben, you know, Simeon, Levi, all of that different stuff. And then some of the Gentiles, they're going to be Israelites. But there's not a single Israelite who is a Gentile, because all Israelites have made the covenant.

But we are Gentiles, and we will become Israelites when we get baptized and adopted into the house of Israel. Okay, deep breath. That was a lot, wasn't it? Yeah. Okay, but you have to know this about the house of Israel. In order for all of the rest of these chapters to make sense. So in the next segment, we're going to discuss our future as members of the House of Israel and what we get if we keep covenants.

We'll do that next.

Segment 3

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[00:28:41] Tammy Uzelac Hall: All right. I have a quote. This is from President Russell M. Nelson in 2006 General Conference. Angelin, can you read this for us?

[00:28:49] Jalyn Peterson: We are among the covenant people of the Lord. Ours is the privilege to participate personally in the fulfillment of these promises. What an exciting time to live.

[00:28:59] Tammy Uzelac Hall: Okay. So grab a colored pencil.

We're going to read and mark some verses that describe this exciting time and the promises. That we've been given because we're from the house of Israel. So let's start in third Nephi chapter 20. We're going to read verses 16 and 17. This is a fun little scripture chain. Okay. 16 and 17. And Diane, we'll start with you.

Will you please read those two verses for us? Okay. Verse 16.

[00:29:24] Diane Gerdy Iman: Then shall ye who are remnant of the house of Jacob, go forth among them. And ye shall be in the midst of them who shall be many, and ye shall be among them as a lion among the beasts of the forest, and as a young lion among the flocks of sheep, who, if he goeth through, both treadeth down and teareth in pieces, and none can deliver.

The hand shall be lifted up upon thine adversaries, and all thine enemies shall be cut off.

[00:29:58] Tammy Uzelac Hall: Now that we've done the diagram, who's the house of Jacob? What's another way to say that? House of Israel. Nice. Excellent. Yep. That is so cool. Okay. That's way cool. Yeah. So he's going to protect you. And don't you love how he's calling us a lion in the forest, like the power a lion's given.

That's what we are. Isn't that awesome to think we're given that much power to tread down the enemies. It's all because of covenants being from the house of Israel.

[00:30:28] Jalyn Peterson: Yeah. This, this, these verses really stuck out to me when I was studying this, uh, before. Um, I mean, these kind of. It reads like Isaiah, even though that's not like a direct quote, right?

But from Isaiah, but, you know, to be in the midst of them and, and I just, I thought that the line where it says the midst of them who shall be many, right? And, and a lot of times it does fill. In the crazy world. Like we are just a few people among the many, but if we're a lion among them, right, or even a young lion of that around the flocks of sheep, right?

Like you think of that people respect the lion. They, they. The, the sheep are going to be, they're going to flee from the lion, right? And we have the, the power to both tread down and tear us in pieces. So to me, this is just that whole thing of exactly what you said, the level of power we have because of our cupboards.

[00:31:40] Tammy Uzelac Hall: I love so much that you pointed out who shall be many. I never saw that before. That's awesome. Yeah. It is many. You fill out numbered on a regular basis.

[00:31:49] Jalyn Peterson: Yeah, that's exactly, I, you know, you can get so overwhelmed with everything going on, but we have the power because we're in God's hands.

[00:32:00] Tammy Uzelac Hall: Okay, let's do another one.

Here's another awesome thing. What an exciting time to live. Third Nephi chapter 20, and we're going to look at verses 31 through 33. Dylan, read those for us.

[00:32:11] Jalyn Peterson: And they shall believe in me that I am Jesus Christ, the son of God, and shall pray unto the Father in my name. Then shall their watchman lift up their voice, and with the voice together shall they sing, for they shall see eye to eye.

Then will the Father gather them together again and give unto them Jerusalem for the land of their inheritance.

[00:32:29] Tammy Uzelac Hall: That's so cool. Listen, that watchman thing about the prophet. I encourage everybody to go and watch the prophet's birthday celebration. It was amazing. Yes. My favorite part was listening to all these world leaders and religious leaders, a rabbi wishing him a happy birthday and saying the most incredible things about him as a prophet on the earth and the good he is doing.

[00:32:54] Diane Gerdy Iman: I love hearing them bear testimony. As you said, hearing them bear their testimony of the prophet, you know, here they are from all walks of life. And saying, you know, we know that he is called of God and, um, I loved hearing his family as well. And, um, there was one, I can't remember who, who it was. And she talked about, um, I think it might've been his granddaughter.

And she talked about how, uh, the prophet has talked so much about covenant women of God. And how he just. Love's and reveres women and he wants us to receive every blessing that we can. And I just thought, wow, this really is a man called of God and he loves us. And I just. You know, I have been just a little worried thinking, is he going to make it to this birthday party?

Will he make it to a hundred? Two more days. Two more days. Make it. Make it. And you know, incredible. I just, I watched it at work on my phone and I just sobbed the whole time just thinking this man is just, he is what our world is needing right now. And How great that people of all walks of life are saying this man is called of God and he is a prophet.

[00:34:42] Tammy Uzelac Hall: Beautiful. It's so exciting that we have watchmen and a watchman. Like I love this. Okay, let's do another one. Go to verses 39 through 41. I'll read this one, and now you mark anything you guys see of a blessing or an exciting time to live. Verily, verily, I say unto you that my people shall know my name, yea, in that day they shall know that I am he that doth speak.

And then shall they say, how beautiful upon the mountains are the feet of him that bringeth good tidings unto them, that publisheth peace, that bringeth good tidings unto them of good, that publishes salvation. That saith unto Zion, Thy God reigneth, and then shall a cry go forth, Depart ye, depart ye, go ye out from thence, touch not that which is unclean, go ye out in the midst of her, be ye clean that bear the vessels of the Lord.

What did you mark in those verses?

[00:35:31] Jalyn Peterson: I have always loved this, uh, the how beautiful upon the mountains are the feet of him that bring up good tidings because I feel like the gospel is that good tiding. It is, it is the piece that has been published and I just don't know how anybody else in the world, I don't know how you're making it today if you don't believe in God and that And that peace ultimately going to prevail and that God is in charge, that he reigns.

So I've always just loved them. And the more people we can tell, like how blessed we are to be able to share that good news of the gospel with other people.

[00:36:17] Tammy Uzelac Hall: Hey, you're going to love this then go back into verse 40 and circle the word beautiful or put a square around it, highlight it, put stars around it, whatever you want to do.

Because in when you, so this is from Isaiah. And there's something neat about this word in Hebrew, how beautiful upon the mountains are the feet of him. That word, beautiful. There's two words, two main words for beautiful in Hebrew. One is an adjective describing, Oh, how beautiful this beautiful, however, is a verb.

It you get to become beautiful by declaring the gospel of Jesus Christ

and I think that that's, that's a verb I can get behind because, you know, when we live in a world where every so much pressure is put on people to be beautiful and do all these things to make yourself look more pretty and here in verse 40, it's, Oh, just bring good tidings unto them. Publish peace. Say unto Zion, thy God reigneth and you become beautiful by speaking his word and by following him and by doing this, keeping his covenant.

So let's do this highlight verse 27 and 29. These are some promises. These are the fulfillment of these promises. Such an exciting time to live. Diane, will you read 27 and then read 29?

[00:37:26] Diane Gerdy Iman: Okay. Verse 27. And after that you were blessed, then fulfilleth the father, the covenant, which he made with Abraham saying in thy seed, shall all the kindreds of the earth be blessed unto the pouring out of the Holy Ghost through me upon the Gentiles.

Which blessing upon the Gentiles shall make them mighty above all and to the scattering of my people, O house of Israel in verse 29 and I will remember the covenant which I have made with my people and I have covenanted with them that I would gather them together in my own due time, that I would give unto them again the land of their fathers for their inheritance, which is the land of Jerusalem.

Amen. Which is the promised land unto them forever sayeth the father.

[00:38:18] Tammy Uzelac Hall: Okay. Now, on your piece of paper that you drew, or in your scriptures right here, we're gonna give you an acronym for this Covenant and the Promises, and this is my favorite acronym. It's LDS. The Abrahamic Covenant is LDS. It's Land, deliverance, and Seed.

He promises you the land of your inheritance. Deliverance from your enemy and seed or posterity outnumber the sands of the seashore. But if you're thinking, well, that didn't happen to me in this life, or I'm still waiting. We love the Abrahamic covenant because it's not just for this life. It's also for the next.

It's creating worlds. It's being like our heavenly parents and having an in land. So many lands you can't even imagine being delivered from the enemy, being delivered from Satan. And then having your seed to town over the sands of the seashore. Indeed. So when Abraham received that promise, you can imagine at age 89 and a hundred that Sarah and Abraham were like, we don't even have kids yet.

What are you talking about? Like, there's no way we'll have that posterity that big. And God's like, just trust me, come on, keep the covenants. You can do this. I've got you. And so we have this Abrahamic covenant. And I asked you guys just to tell me, come prepared to say, you know, what blessings have come into your life by way of keeping covenants.

Would you recommend it?

[00:39:34] Jalyn Peterson: Well, I mean, you're bringing up a good point. So when I thought of this question, right, and if I think about, I don't even know what I don't know, meaning I could be, who knows what I'm being protected from? Like who knows, you know, like, yeah, I think there are probably so many blessings that I'm never going to know and tell.

I think that's kind of the hard part of a covenant is because many of the blessings are eternal. Right. It's, we're not going to know really until then. So we really are trying not to, you know, sell our souls for a mess of pottage. Right. We're trying to really celestial as the prophet has said. But I, I think I really don't know the level I'm being blessed until.

You know, it's a big picnic in the sky and I get to watch the review tape and go, Oh, look at that. They're mess. That was, you know what I mean like,

[00:40:36] Tammy Uzelac Hall: Oh, that's great. Yeah. I, I think that so many times, Jalyn, thank you. I think we can all agree. We don't know what we don't know. It's such an exciting time to live and it, I just keep getting drawn back to Abraham and Sarai.

Or Abram and Sarai before their names were changed in Genesis chapter 17 where it's one of the hardest verses to read unless you understand the Hebrew. When the savior says to him, I command you to be perfect. And you're just like, ah, oh, like this is where the rubber hits the road for Abraham. And the word perfect is Tameem in Hebrew.

And it comes from the root Tom, which means integrity. And I think what the Lord is saying is I need to know right now, are you in or are you out? Cause if you're in. There's some pretty amazing things that I can do for you. I'm going to give you LDS, but I just need to know. And either way, look, if you're out, I love you.

And if you're in, I love you. I will always love you. But if you're in, Oh, I can bless you. I just need you to make the decision right now. And Abram, He's like, I'm in. And then he gets his name changed to Abraham and Sarai goes to Sarah. And that's where they enter into the covenant with the Lord. And then they see the fulfillment of the promises.

Then she gets pregnant with Isaac. After all of that, like, I just need to know right now, you enter you out. Um, cause the covenants, I promise you, it will get, it will get good.

[00:41:58] Jalyn Peterson: But, it didn't insulate them from a hard life and from all the trials and tribulations. Oh, so hard. And, you know, their sons being jerks and throwing their brother in a pit, right?

Like it didn't insulate them from all that stuff. So just because you've made covenants doesn't mean like the blessings, yeah, get ready because you have picked a side.

[00:42:22] Tammy Uzelac Hall: Because there are who shall be many. There will be money to make you think. There are many. You're foolish. Yep. Awesome. Awesome. Awesome discussion.

Diane, you have anything real quick you were. I was just gonna say, um, with

[00:42:33] Diane Gerdy Iman: what you were saying with, are you in or are you out? And it makes me think a lot about many are called but few are chosen you know, are we Are we going to let the Lord bless us or not? You know, he has so many blessings and I've been thinking about that a lot lately. The Lord wants to bless me so much, but am I going to allow him to do that? You know, he has so much, but am I going to put the effort into doing that or not? I have the choice. There's so much good out there, but. Do I want to do that?

[00:43:12] Jalyn Peterson: And there's also repentance because we are not, oh yeah, we're not going to be perfect on this covenant path, right?

We are striving and I think there's times where I feel a little more all in and times when I feel a little more backed off, right? Life is still going to be hard. We're not going to get immediate rewards and we're going to mess it up and, and we just have to keep coming back and always come back.

[00:43:41] Tammy Uzelac Hall: Yeah, that's awesome.

Oh my gosh. Great discussion you two. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. Well, then let's do this in the next segment Let's find out what the children Israel need to wear so that they can come back. I love this. We'll do it next

Segment 4

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[00:44:05] Tammy Uzelac Hall: Now this is an interesting one. So here's my question you guys I just want you to know don't go churchy on me But what do you imagine that those who belong to the house of Israel would have to wear? What do you picture?

[00:44:16] Jalyn Peterson: Oh, I mean, robes and headgear and just, you know, , I,

[00:44:24] Tammy Uzelac Hall: you said headgear and I'm like, that was brutal in the eighties.

[00:44:27] Diane Gerdy Iman: I, that headgear that my sister wore.

[00:44:29] Jalyn Peterson: Like, is that what we're talking about? Okay. You know, I'm gonna have a heavy robe and a ton of layers and Ooh, I like that. Leather sandal and yeah. So special attire, right?

[00:44:42] Tammy Uzelac Hall: Sharps. Okay. That's fantastic. I love that none of you went to very modest clothing. Yeah, we're not even gonna go there. Well, I mean a robe. Robe's pretty modest. Comfortable though. You're pretty,

[00:44:53] Jalyn Peterson: yeah. I'm a muumuu. I just want to be in a muumuu. Eat everything I want. My muumuu is my favorite thing.

[00:45:00] Tammy Uzelac Hall: And flip flops. Oh, it's the best. Yes. I own many caftans that I put on some nice shoes and I go to church. Yes. I don't want anything around my waist.

That's the stage of life I'm in right now. It's fine. Nothing wrong with that. No. All right. Let's go into third Nephi chapter 20. We're going to look at verses 36 and 37 and we're going to find out what it is that those who belong to the house of Israel are going to wear or what we should be wearing right now.

Okay. Here we are. Diane, will you please read third Nephi chapter 20 verses 36 and 37? Yes. Verse 36

[00:45:34] Diane Gerdy Iman: and then shall be brought to pass that which is written awake, awake again and put on thy strength, O Zion, put on thy beautiful garments. There's the answer. Oh, Jerusalem, the holy city for henceforth there shall no more.

Come into be the uncircumcised and the unclean, shake thyself from the dust, arise, sit down, O Jerusalem, loose thyself from the bands of thy neck, O captive daughter of Zion.

[00:46:06] Tammy Uzelac Hall: Thank you. Okay. Next to verse 36, put this cross reference, Doctrine and Covenants, section 113. Versus seven through eight. Now before we turn there though, Diane, I want to know why you said, there it is.

What did you mean? Talk to me. I think in that it's garments. Oh, isn't that awesome? The idea of wearing garments and what they mean. I have a question though, Jolynn, I want to know this from you, what your thought is. So I have a daughter who's 26. And, uh, she has not received her endowment in the temple yet.

She does baptisms for the dead. And we were talking and Temple came up and I just said to her, you know, I, I'm not telling you what to do. I'm just throwing this out there as a thought. Have you ever thought about maybe going to the temple because, um, it's not like you have to change your clothing or anything, but I also think there are some really amazing blessings that come from covenants that you make in the temple that you might want to be a part of.

But I'm gonna let you choose. I'm just throwing this out there. Bye. And she said to me, but I mean, I'm, I'm just gonna, shouldn't I just wait till I'm married? And I want to know, Jalyn, as a single gal, what is your advice to my daughter? Why? What should she do? Why have you gone? You didn't wait till you got married.

[00:47:16] Jalyn Peterson: Really good question. So, uh, and here are my thoughts on that of, for one, for so many years, right? I viewed marriage as a reward for you. You were righteous. You followed the path. You did like, like marriage was the gift you got. It was the reward you got for being Play in the game right for doing what you were supposed to do, but when we go to the temple and we make covenants and Receive the temple garment.

We call it the endowment. It is a gift That is the gift you're giving yourself and why would I want to wait? to open that gift just for something that is not a reward for anything I'm doing, you know. But going to the temple is the reward in and of itself, right? Like, and I always, another Heather Bloomster, this is another Heatherism, um, if you help the dead, they'll help you.

And, and to go to the temple, just, just even sit in the celestial room is a gift. Just to even do that and be away from the world and feel the presence of your savior and just the other people around you, like that alone. So to me, she should take that experience of what she feels when she's doing baptisms like 10 exits.

Because to me, that's kind of what it is when you're in the, when the celestial room, like it's just beyond the covenant and, and all of that, you are being endowed with a gift and the wearing the garment is very comforting. Um, even here in high humidity and all of that, where it's like, what are you doing?

Right? Like it is, there's just. Comfort and protection in that. And so why wouldn't you go get that gift as soon as you could?

[00:49:20] Tammy Uzelac Hall: That's a really beautiful answer and I appreciate you thinking through that. You spoke my love language because you said, why would I wait to open that gift? Because I love presents and I could not sit and look at a gift with a bow on it and knowing that I had to wait when really the Lord's like, it's right here.

Just take it when you're ready. That is so cool. I love how you connected to that.

[00:49:40] Jalyn Peterson: The present isn't marriage. The present isn't celestial marriage. The present is the endowment and the ability to go to the temple and do those covenants.

[00:49:50] Tammy Uzelac Hall: Well, and how cool is this that we've discovered that the ordinance, there's covenants and ordinances and every covenant that we make in this church has an ordinance attached to it.

Right. The ordinance part of it. of the covenants we make in the temple is the garment. That's the gift. Yeah, it gives to us. And so let's find out according to Doctrine and Covenants section 113, what it has to teach us about these garments and what we're putting on. This is cool. So this is an Isaiah scripture.

And in Doctrine and Covenants section 113, one of the, our theme for next year for Doctrine and Covenants is to ask Jesus, because that's what the whole section is about. Questions and answers. Joseph wants to know something. He prays and the Lord gives him an answer. Well, a man by the name of Elias Higbee wanted to know something.

So he came to Joseph Smith and he's like, well, isn't this cool? Elias Higby.

[00:50:40] Jalyn Peterson: Oh, Elias. Okay. Yeah.

[00:50:42] Tammy Uzelac Hall: A man by the name of Elias Higby's got a question for Joseph. And so he comes with his question and it's in section 113 verses seven through eight. Diane, will you read that for us? Yes.

[00:50:52] Diane Gerdy Iman: Questions by Elias Higby.

What is meant by the command in Isaiah 52 first verse, which saith, Put on thy strength, O Zion, and what people had Isaiah reference to. He had reference to those whom God should call in the last days, who should hold the power of priesthood to bring again Zion and the redemption of Israel. And to put on the strength is to put on the authority of the priesthood, which she, Zion, has a right to by lineage.

Also to return to that power. Which she had lost.

[00:51:31] Tammy Uzelac Hall: Thank you. Isn't that fantastic to put on my strength, to put on my beautiful garment is to put on the power of the priesthood.

[00:51:38] Diane Gerdy Iman: So I was talking with my sister. Um, I have two sisters that one of them got married when she was about 50 and then the other one is 52 and she has never been married.

She is probably the most Christ like person I've ever met, and she has never been married, and she is endowed. And I've talked to her about why she thinks that it is so important to, for sisters to go through the temple. Now she did go on a mission, but I did ask her, why do you think it is important for women, who are not married.

To go through the temple and receive their endowments and she said to me, you know Our prophet has has encouraged us to think celestial and she said that is how we think celestial Is we focus on our relationship with our Heavenly Father and our Savior You know, we are covenant women of God, and when we enter into the temple, we make covenants with our Heavenly Father and our Savior.

We focus on the relationship we have with them, and we become more aligned with them. She said, we need the protection in life. She also said, I don't want to be alone for eternity. Of course I want to be married. And she said, but I know that the blessings will come. And she said. So, even though I don't have the blessings right now of being married, I know that I can prepare to do that.

And so, I can prepare by becoming a righteous woman now, and why would I want to be devoid of the blessings of the priesthood right now?

[00:53:48] Tammy Uzelac Hall: So tell me this, because here's my thought then, going to this whole idea, as women, how can we put on the power of the priesthood? Because we hear the word priesthood and we automatically think, I don't have the priesthood.

We need to, again, we're going to get rid of that. You have the priesthood. You haven't been ordained to an office in the priesthood. We're not talking about being ordained. We are talking about what President Oaks, President Nelson, and our women leadership has said, that we do have the power of the priesthood and we have it.

When we walk into the temple, when we renew our covenants. I mean, all of that is so cool. So talk to me a little bit about that. Yeah.

[00:54:24] Diane Gerdy Iman: We've been told that anyone that has been endowed has the priesthood power that we have in our home. Even if we might not have a priesthood holder in our home, my sister does live alone.

She doesn't have a priesthood holder in her home, and I'll tell you, you go into her home. And the spirit is so strong. Um, you know, so I know that even though I do not hold the priesthood, yes, I have an incredible priesthood holder in my home, but I know that when my husband hasn't been home and I've had kids that are struggling, I know that the prayers that I pray are heard and answered, and that my Heavenly Father is blessing those children.

Um, I also know in callings that I have received, that when I have a calling, I am able to lead. Um, you know, a relief society or young women's or, or a primary, you know, we have that authority.

[00:55:44] Tammy Uzelac Hall: We have that power. You bet we do. In fact, as I was looking back at this verse, it's interesting in verse 37, shake thyself from the dust arise, sit down on Jerusalem, loose thyself from the bands of thy neck, O captive daughter of Zion.

And I think how many of us have been captive with the thought that we don't have priesthood power. I want, you know, right, right here. It's telling us to put on the beautiful garments. It's telling us to put on the strength, which is the power of the priesthood. And let's get rid of these old ideas and beliefs.

We as women have access to priesthood power, and that is awesome. That's what it means to be living in this exciting, powerful, beautiful world. Today filled with promise. And again, I'm just going back to what you taught us, Jalyn. There will be many who will be against and we may seem small, but I think that that's where we get the power of the lion is from what we're wearing.

[00:56:35] Jalyn Peterson: Yes. Symbol of your strength. Like that's what it is. You know, it's sometimes, you know, living outside of Utah and I have a lot of people who don't really understand. Like, you know, So trying to explain about the garment, you know, in a way that is still sacred and you're not. Yeah. You know, but I liked on the, I, I don't know when they talked about it, but Elder, um, DH Oaks said, and I, I saw this because we were talking about this, and then on the homepage of the library app, it has his thing about covenants and why they're important.

And, and within that it talks, it shows like. There's a lot of people that have made covenants that are not religious, any military people, they wear a uniform, police officers wear a uniform, um, medical professionals. You see them in black, white coats and all that, like priests who have the collar, right?

Nuns who wear the habit. There's a, we, it's not like it's abnormal in our society to do that. Um, it's just that for us, it is sacred and it's something that. Like, it's for me. I hold that dear. I hold that close to my heart, like that needs to be close to my heart. Um, it's not for the whole world to profess the covenant that's between me and my heavenly father.

Um, and so, yeah, just tell her to go, like, just, just, it's the best decision. Claim the blessing now. You can wait for eternity, but claim the gift now.

[00:58:16] Tammy Uzelac Hall: I love that. That is a good way to, claim the gift now. Awesome. Yeah. Awesome. Awesome. Awesome. Ladies. Okay. So now that we know what we're supposed to wear, then we can answer the question, well, what are we supposed to do?

What is the house of Israel that you drew supposed to do? We're going to answer that in the next segment.

Segment 5

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[00:58:41] Tammy Uzelac Hall: Okay. You too. I asked you this question to think about, cause I, I'm excited to know your answer. Have you guys ever been invited to a favorite things party where everybody brings one of their favorite things and then, yeah. Okay. Yeah. If we were having a favorite things party. What one item would you bring?

What was one of your favorite things and money's no object. So you can bring whatever is one of your favorite things right now. What are you going to bring?

[00:59:01] Diane Gerdy Iman: I have two. Tam? You'll, you'll know one of mine, my little raspberry dream, my Christmas in a cup from the cup. Yep. But now it's her favorite drink.

[00:59:13] Tammy Uzelac Hall: What is the drink combination? What is it?

[00:59:15] Diane Gerdy Iman: It is. Well, I'm, I now make it better than you can buy. So, and you have to put it in your stamina. So it's Dr. Pepper with. Um, some raspberry syrup and coconut creamer. It's delicious, but I'm very picky about the Dr. Pepper, so sometimes I have to go to multiple Mavericks, you know.

So, my other is my big favorite. Thick, minky blankey.

[00:59:46] Jalyn Peterson: Oh, yeah.

[00:59:47] Diane Gerdy Iman: Minky blanket I just got after my dad died. I am obsessed. And my muumuu. Ah, I've got three.

[00:59:55] Tammy Uzelac Hall: You got three.

[00:59:56] Jalyn Peterson: You know how, you know how they do those things of like, tell us you're from Utah without saying you're from Utah? Diane just did it. She just did it. Bye. I got my, You know, flavored beverage in my big Stanley and I have a blanket. Yeah. That's funny. Yeah.

[01:00:17] Diane Gerdy Iman: And I, I'm really from Boulder, Colorado,

[01:00:19] Tammy Uzelac Hall: but there, you know, those are good things. I would want one of those. Right. Okay. Jalyn, what's yours?

[01:00:25] Jalyn Peterson: Cheesecake. Cheesecake.

[01:00:27] Tammy Uzelac Hall: Oh. Done. Okay. That's a good one too. I love cheesecake. This is fun to think about. Favorite things. What you would bring. Um, if it was food for me, it would be a half Coke, half diet Coke with a bag of Doritos and some Oreos. Or it would be a big cozy sweatshirt. Cause I just love to be comfy. Yeah. I love that though. Favorite things. Okay. Let me show you what God's favorite thing is. This is kind of fun. So here we go. And this is what he wants us to do. Third Nephi chapter 20. We're still in 20.

This was awesome. I was going to say, are we getting out of 20 anytime soon? We probably aren't. 20 is really, it's meaty. It is meaty. And we could spend so much time in every single chapter, um, because they're Isaiah, but you know, go back to the year we did Old Testament. We covered all of this in Isaiah, but we didn't get to cover chapter 20.

And it's so good. It's so good. About the house of Israel. Okay. So let's read verse 13. Jalyn, will you read? I am. Here we go. 3rd Nephi chapter 20, verse 13.

[01:01:19] Jalyn Peterson: And then shall the remnants which shall be scattered abroad upon the face of the earth be gathered in from the east and from the west and from the south and from the north and they shall be brought to the knowledge of the Lord their God who hath redeemed them.

[01:01:31] Tammy Uzelac Hall: Highlight that we're going to put the word gathering and then we're going to go outside of it. We're going to go to chapter 25. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. And it's the verses you guys already marked. See, we didn't even know we were going to do this versus five and six. There's your verses 25, five and six. Jalyn, go ahead and read those for us.

[01:01:49] Jalyn Peterson: Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord, and he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children and the heart of the children to the fathers. Lest they come and smite the earth with a curse.

[01:02:02] Tammy Uzelac Hall: Okay. So God's favorite thing is gathering. And why did we connect with these two verses?

Because of this, what our prophet said, President Russell M. Nelson, when he issued the big decree to all of the youth in June of 2018 to help gather, to help gather Israel. And then he said this, Diane, will you read this quote, please?

[01:02:23] Diane Gerdy Iman: Anytime you do anything that helps anyone. On either side of the veil, take a step toward making covenants with God, and receiving their essential baptismal and temple ordinances, you are helping to gather Israel.

It is as simple as that.

[01:02:40] Tammy Uzelac Hall: Thank you. Now the reason why I chose gathering, Um, both sides of the veil as God's favorite thing is because what you said, Diane, these verses of scripture are in every one of the standard works. And so if it's repeated in each of the standard works, it's important. It is important to our heavenly father.

And so I want to know, because we talk a lot about then when we read these verses of scripture about doing work for the dead. And I'm wondering, do either one of you have. A genealogy or missionary work story because I don't everyone knows I struggle with missionary work with with actually genealogy work I went to the temple with Holly and Holly's like I've got to print off some names I'm like, I'm gonna print out some names Sorry fancy pants and she goes it's super easy and she showed me how to get on the church app Fine and you click on something that says names in the queue Guess what?

My family doesn't have any names in the queue So there she has a cousin who's doing so much work for the dead There are thousands of names in there and I was like, yeah Well Listen to all my Yuzalack family out there, get, get, get your game on. All right. I need some names so I can take them to the temple.

So I don't have any, give me some stories. What do you got?

[01:03:45] Diane Gerdy Iman: I've got some. So my family as Jalyns are converts to the church as well. And so we joined the church when I was eight years old and we are the only members of the church.

[01:04:01] Jalyn Peterson: Wow.

[01:04:01] Diane Gerdy Iman: So, yeah. So my parents did a lot of genealogy. And it was neat because my mom reached out to some of her cousins who are not members of the church, and they also were very into genealogy, and so we have just branches and branches of our tree, which is really neat.

And so we have done a lot. of genealogy and a lot of temple work. So two things, I have a missionary story and a temple story. So when my son Matthew just got home from his mission, shout out to my sweet son, he served in California Arcadia mission, Spanish speaking. And when he was on his mission, he would, like a good son, he sent an email.

Every week, mass email, and he included family members, my, um, my aunts and uncles from both sides in his emails. I have an aunt who I am particularly close to, who lives in Chicago, and she would message me a lot and my dad and say, you know, it is just so incredible the things that Matthew is teaching.

These people, you know, and your church is just so amazing, and I'm just so proud of Matthew, and it was so neat to hear my Catholic aunt saying, Wow, I'm really impressed, and he's such a good boy, and, and then she came out to my dad's funeral, and my son was still on his mission. He didn't come home. Well, he gave the prayer via Zoom, and then my husband read a talk from my son, um, at the funeral.

Wow. And so many of the family members were just so touched as my son taught about the fun of salvation. And, um, there's a doctor that I work with who I have received multiple texts from, and she has said, I love your family. I love your church. I love the things that you do. That I felt and I heard at your dad's funeral.

She's like, I haven't felt that way before. And it was just so beautiful and such simple things, you know, just sharing your testimony or. Including somebody in your missionaries letter. Yeah. You know, it doesn't have to be a big, let me go give you a book of Mormon.

[01:06:36] Tammy Uzelac Hall: Right.

[01:06:36] Diane Gerdy Iman: But let me share something with you. And then, um, with temple work, it's been, as I mentioned before, with my dad's passing and my mom passed away six years before that, when my dad was alive, he went to the cemetery every Sunday to visit my mom's grave. And so when he passed away, I decided to I want to carry that on, but they're not at the cemetery.

And so I decided instead every week I would go to the temple. And so I have done that every week and I have taken family names and it has been incredible to go to the temple when you know that there are people on the other side of the veil who know that you're at the temple. And I know that my parents have.

Spoken with the people that I'm doing the work for, um, because they know a lot of them and love those people and it's been, it's really made going to the temple a lot different when it is for your ancestors. A few years ago at a leadership meeting that I was at one of the general authorities that visited.

He promised us as presidencies that if we would. We do our family history work and take those names to the temple. He said, if you will take three names to the temple for five weeks in a row, you will see blessings that you have never seen before. And at that time I was in the stake calling and my presidency and I took that challenge.

We were a brand new presidency and we all got our names together and we went every week. We didn't go for five weeks. We went for several months. And we took our names and we had the most incredible bond as the presidency and our testimonies were so strengthened of temple work, of genealogy, and it helped us with our callings.

It helped with our marriages. It helped with our children. It helped in, in so many things. It really helped me with my testimony and my relationship with the savior. But it really. Helped me to fall in love with the temple and, um, know of the importance of the temple. So I have such a strong testimony of. Of genealogy, going to the temple.

[01:09:15] Jalyn Peterson: Don't you could just picture like her mom and dad up there on their mission. Yeah. Right. They're just up there on a mission and she's taking the names and they're just up there like reiterating all the teachings, um, and doing that. I just can see your mom and dad up there with all your ancestors just, you know, that just, that is so heartwarming.

[01:09:38] Tammy Uzelac Hall: That's a really cool connection, Jalyn. Wow. How tender. In fact, do this on the page. So let's go back to the house of Israel that you drew and we're going to apply Diane's words to that because what we've learned is when you are baptized, you were adopted into the house of Israel and then you want to put missionary work and temple work. by the word gathering because that's what the house of Israel is doing. We have got to go out and gather and do all this temple work. I love the challenge that your stake president gave you. How appropriate for someone that lives so close to the temple. That's a doable thing for anyone who doesn't live close to a temple.

It's okay. Do genealogy work. I love how one time I was challenged to just sit and look at my garments before I put them on and renew in my mind the covenants that each of the markings mean I did that. for several weeks because I wasn't close to a temple and that's a great way. Just anything you can do to stay connected to the temple because we want everybody to join the house of Israel.

We want them all to be able to receive LDS land deliverance and seed. And as I was preparing for this and I got to the end of this segment in my mind when I was writing out this lesson, I had the line from Willy Wonka pop into my head, which is it's Willy Wonka and the chocolate factory. The old one from the seventies is one of my favorite movies growing up as a child.

Loved it. And at the very end, when the little boy finds out he doesn't get the prize because he and his grandpa drank fizzy lifting drink and they touched the wall so it had to be sterilized, right? So they don't win the lifetime supply of chocolate. Well, the little boy, Charlie, gives the gobstopper back and then Willy Wonka realizes the little boy's heart is so pure.

And then I went and watched this because I'm like, am I remembering this right? And then listen to this line that Willie says to the little boy, Charlie, because I'm imagining this is what God will say to us after we've done all the work we could do after we've lived as the house of Israel to gather people and bring them in.

I love this. He says. So, shines a good deed in a weary world. Charlie, my boy, you've won! You did it! You did it! I knew you would! I just knew you would! Oh, Charlie, forgive me for putting you through this. Please forgive me. But you passed the test. You won. Oh, I get chills when I read it.

[01:11:55] Diane Gerdy Iman: I love that.

[01:11:56] Tammy Uzelac Hall: That's amazing. You place your name there. Jalyn, you did it. Or Diane, you did it. You have won. Oh, Charlie. Oh, Diane. I knew you would. I just, or Jalyn, my daughter, you won. And I just think that's what this is all about. So to those of us who want everything and who are promised everything by keeping our covenants, this is so cool because the very best promise for us, and I think it's going to be a favorite thing that we are all going to want, I'm going to show you what that is in the next segment.

Segment 6

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[01:12:32] Tammy Uzelac Hall: This is just the best thing, and I think this is going to be the favorite thing we all want. Turn with me to 3rd Nephi chapter 22, and we're going to read verses 8 through 11. Highlight these verses, and let's see, Jillyn, will you read that for us? Okay.

[01:12:47] Jalyn Peterson: In a little wrath I hid my face from thee for a moment, but with everlasting kindness will I have mercy on thee, saith the Lord thy Redeemer.

For this the waters of Noah unto me, for as I have sworn that the waters of Noah should no more go over the earth, so have I sworn that I would not be wroth with thee. For the mountains shall depart, and the hills be removed, but my kindness shall not depart from me. Neither shall the covenant of my peace be removed, saith the Lord, that hath mercy on thee.

O thou afflicted, tossed with tempest, and not comforted, behold, I will lay thy stones with fair colors, and lay thy foundations with thine fingers.

[01:13:23] Tammy Uzelac Hall: Okay, go back with me then, verse 8, especially the Willy Wonka thing that I'm thinking now when he goes, I'm sorry, I know it was so hard, but I knew you could do it.

I love verse 8, like there will be times when you will feel like I have left you, but I haven't, like I've always been here. It's okay. I know it's going to be hard, but then we just love verse 10, that's the one we need to highlight. Will you read verse 10 one more time, Jalyn?

[01:13:46] Jalyn Peterson: For the mountains shall depart and the hills be removed, but my kindness shall not depart from me.

Neither shall the covenant of my peace be removed, saith the Lord that hath mercy on thee. Why would verse

[01:13:57] Tammy Uzelac Hall: 10 be just the favorite thing?

[01:14:01] Jalyn Peterson: I mean, kindness and peace, like what other emotions do I want to feel in this life? Like peace, I think we all just crave that, right? We all want to feel peaceful. God's kindness will never leave us.

The covenant of peace and, and what I feel now like strength, strength we have, it's not going to be removed from us ever. Like we, we have that regardless of the trails and tribulations we have now. Um, that is what we can rely on.

[01:14:37] Diane Gerdy Iman: And that he's not going to, he's not going to leave us, that we can trust, that we can be forgiven and return to him.

And just like when we are upset with our child, you know, if we're angry with our child, we step back and then when we're ready to return to our child and when they're ready, then we're always there. Bye. I love where it says, but my kindness shall not depart from thee, neither shall the covenant of my people be removed.

When it, and then when it says for just a small moment in verse eight, you know, uh, I hid my face from thee for a moment, just, just a small moment, but I'm always going to be there. Yeah. You know, it was just a short time, but this everlasting kindness is always here. You just need to recognize that he has this love for us and it's always here.

He's always got our back.

[01:15:38] Tammy Uzelac Hall: Absolutely. Well, and going back to how we started, as you both were testifying about the experience of feeling the love of your father from the other side of the veil. You know that your earthly father loves you, but then you apply this verse to our heavenly father because your own earthly father will say, I'm never going to leave you.

My kindness will not depart, but to have a God, right? Like I, my kindness is not going to depart. My covenant of my peace will not be removed. And then I love to say it, the Lord that has mercy on thee. Yes. For him to have mercy on you, I can't think of anyone I'd rather, I want to be covered by that verse at all times and in all things and in all places.

[01:16:23] Diane Gerdy Iman: Yeah. I love that. I want to be covered by that verse.

[01:16:28] Tammy Uzelac Hall: Yes. Ooh. I'm going to write that next time. I am too.

[01:16:32] Jalyn Peterson: Well, when we talked about our favorite things, right? It was things that kind of bring us comfort, right? And and it says in verse 11, you know, Oh thou afflicted tossed with tempest and not comforted Yes, he is gonna lay stones with fair colors foundation with sapphire window of agates, right?

Like he shall be With those statements, we will be comforted. We will be comforted with our blankets and our true fruit.

[01:17:00] Tammy Uzelac Hall: Yeah, exactly. Well, and on your picture, do this on the roof of your picture. I would say, write these verses. Put third Nephi 22, eight through. I mean, all of these verses are some of the, cause you said, Diane, I want to be covered in this verse.

I want my house to be covered in these verses, especially then verse 13 and all thy children shall be taught of the Lord and great shall be the peace of thy children. That's a promise that comes to you by way of the covenants that you keep. Like I think about that with my own. That's why it's so important for me to remain true to my covenants so that all my children that are taught of the Lord.

Great shall be the peace of my children. It might not be right now. It might not be in a couple of years. Like we might have to spend some serious time in the wilderness as we have redefined that word. But there will be great shall be the peace of my children because of the covenants that I've made because I belong to the house of Israel and my roof is made up of these verses.

So I like that you said that. I love that. That's awesome. Wow. Well, thank you. That's the end of our discussion. We're done. Love it. Good stuff. Okay. Gather your thoughts and tell me what is your takeaway from our discussion today? Look back at all your notes and everything we have.

[01:18:17] Jalyn Peterson: I mean, to me, it's just the overall arching thing of how much our heavenly father loves us, right?

And how much strength we have and power we have. I'm not sure in my day to day life, I always remember, you know, I always know that, right? But it's just so like just even reading this is bringing that just it's right Just having talked about this brings peace to your soul because you know even how horrible it's gonna get and how sure whatever things you're afraid of that you're gonna go through or your kids are gonna go through right We're all going to go through those things.

It's all, we're all going to have that stuff, but we're also all have the power to handle that and to be protected from that and to come off conquerors in the end because we have a heavenly father that loves us.

[01:19:14] Tammy Uzelac Hall: I will. Amen. That that's so great to learn. Thank you, Diane.

[01:19:19] Diane Gerdy Iman: All right. I would say that my takeaway will be the blessings of keeping covenants and how, uh, It's so important for me to remember that sometimes Israel was scattered, that sometimes I can be scattered individually, that I can distance myself from the Lord and how important it is for me to remember that the Lord has my back and that He is always there for me, that He keeps His promises.

And that I want to be covered by His mercy and also that I will call upon those in need. It's those angels that we are, are told that we have every right to call upon. Yeah. I like it.

[01:20:24] Jalyn Peterson: That just made me think too, like, so with your career or anything like that, it's easier to do it when you have a good why behind it.

If I'm just showing up to work to just do the job and get the paycheck, I don't come across the same way, right? Like, we're not just doing a list. Go to the temple. That's right. Mm-Hmm. baptism. And do not just doing the list. The why behind it Yeah. Is because you want that strength and power that God is gonna give you to be covered with his minky blanket of love.

Right. Right. Yeah.

[01:21:03] Diane Gerdy Iman: Because the A list way, you can't, you don't just go to the temple one time. Right. Yeah. And then you know it all. But every time you go, there's something deeper and deeper. There's more. He wants to keep blessing you and keep covering you more.

[01:21:19] Jalyn Peterson: Yeah. And that's these verses, especially like chapter 20, like that is the why.

That is the why of making covenants and doing. Ooh, I love that. What we do.

[01:21:32] Tammy Uzelac Hall: Thank you. Oh my gosh, that's so good. I think you just summed up my takeaway right there. Chapter 20 is the why of making covenants. I was going to share something else, but when you said that it all connected, I was like, that's it.

That's why we're there. But we long to the house of Israel. And that's why we have to know all of the

[01:21:51] Diane Gerdy Iman: why of keeping our covenants, right? Why I'm breaking covenants.

[01:21:54] Tammy Uzelac Hall: The why of making covenants chapter 20. That is so good. Wow. Ladies. Love you. Love you, girl. Thanks, Sam. Thanks for coming. So well prepared.

That was so cool. Well, what was your takeaway? I thought I knew my takeaway and then right at the end, Jalyn had to say that and it changed everything. That was so cool. Go to our group on Facebook or follow us on Instagram and share what you have learned or ask questions. I just love to read when people post.

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