{Poll} Vaccines

I studied extensively immunobiology in grad school. It was interesting to present to several PhD's and other clinicians my findings on vaccination. I read dozens of books that would bore you to tears. In the end, it is very evident that vaccinations are not the safe and effective panacea that the drug companies try to portray them as. The chemical thymerisol is a mercury derivative. Aluminum is a neurotoxin. Formaldehyde is a cancer causing agent. Yet, each time we inject a developing immune system with these things, we are rolling the dice. Most people don't realize that the MMR can only be grown on aborted fetus cells. That is disgusting to me. I watched as my neice was given her vaccinations at 18 months and from that day was fundamentally changed as a human. She was developing normally then in an instant was severely stunted in her emotional and social growth. We have overcome most diseases through the "herd" immune system. We have eliminated most disease in the US because we have clean water and proper garbage disposal standards, not because a wonder chemical has saved us from most disease. ... just my educated conclusion.

We chose to vaccinate because if I chose not to vaccinate my child and she got a disease that I could have prevented, and it killed her, or maimed her, I could never live with myself. Those diseases that we vaccinate against havent gone away. They still exist and they are still having out breaks, more so than in recent years because there are people who are susceptible to them. we did a lot of research in vaccines, and a lot of prayer and thought, and felt it was the responsible thing to do, to protect our child, but then also to protect others. we slowed down her schedule. we asked a ton of questions regarding the supposed autism link and vaccine (which has been disproven many times over.... the dr.t hat first posed that study has been discredited and is no longer able to practice.) we asked about mercury and its derivatives in the vaccines (our dr. only uses fresh vaccines. so no mercury. apparently it hasnt been used in about twenty years from what they say). should people still fight and hunt out and search as to what is causing autism, and those disorders that they are seeing? absolutely. are there any studies that have concretely linked vaccines and autism? no. (the one that linked it first the dr admitted to unethical research behavior and his study and he have both been discredited. he is no longer allowed to practice.) it's all anecdotal evidence. do i still have a slight hold my breath moment when she gets her shots? of course I do. whenever you put your trust in someone else regarding your child i think you do. but our dr has proven himself exceptional above and beyond time and again. so i trust him. Every parent must choose what they think is best for their child, be it the schools they attend, organic non organic food, or vaccines. For us, we felt the best decision was to vaccinate.

Yes, I had my children vaccinated but not while they were babies, when they were much older and not all of the vaccinations. I occassionally in the last many years have gotten a tetnus shot but absolutely nothing else. I do not think that they are needed for most healthy people. They are pushed to make the dollars for the companies.

I am amazed at how little those in the health care system try to educate themselves on the matters of thimerisol and other ingredients in our vaccination system. It seems that we automatically take it for granted that if it is approved by the FDA or the AMA that we are safe. Blind sheep type of knowledge rules the system. I appreciate a doctor or practioner that will actually earn their keep and research continually for the best possible solutions to our health predicaments. Sometimes they need to have actual experience with a loved one who has gone through one of these diseases to care enough to really be a part of the solution. Thank you to those who benefit the world in this way - thank you for actually earning the title of "Healer".

I chose not to vaccinate at first based on my uneasy feelings about it, then because I gradually learned more about really why vaccinations were implemented...for population control, whether it be to make people infertile or give them cancer (slow kill). This from the elitists and their plan for the New World Order, and by the way...look it up before you call me crazy or just think that...there is plenty of on the NWO on youtube, infowars dot com... educate yourself...are media is controlled!!!

I actually had my children begin vaccinations as I had had a year of nurses training and had great faith in the medical community; I never really gave it any thought when my children were first born. But by the time they were about to start school I had started doing some major research on pharmaceuticals of all kinds due to some health issues of my own, and vaccines in particular. By the time I finished my research I came to the conclusion that my children and I would not roll the dice by putting those vaccines in their bodies, we’d rather roll the dice by not using them. I believe the doctor who wrote this article is sincere, as most doctors are. However, as I read this article he struck me as being the same as most doctors, he has only read the information given to him by the pharmaceutical industry and perhaps the FDA (who also got their information from the pharmaceutical industry, so if they lied about their results in a study, the FDA doesn’t know they’ve been lied to, which has happened on more than one occasion already). If you are a true researcher, you will look at all the information and data and when you realize that in, I believe it was 2004, the “Journal of the American Medical Association” said that the 4th leading cause of death in the United States was PROPERLY PRESCRIBED medication (that’s properly, not improperly prescribed medication), you begin to understand that perhaps all is not what it is presented to be by the pharmaceutical industry and even the FDA or the CDC. When you do the research and discover how the relationship between these companies and agencies (that are meant to oversee them) have been corrupted, you begin to see where someone "let the fox in the hen house", as my grandma used to say. Here's a great place to start your research: http://www.enlightenamerica.com/files/Over-Prescribed.pdf this article gives references that you can look up and begin your research. You know doctors are very busy people and it's not entirely their fault when there are problems with drugs; it is each person's responsibility to watch out for their own health and that of their family. You need to make sure you research any medications you are going to be using and another great place to go when thinking about taking any medication is www.askapatient.com. This website will tell you all the side effects that other people have experienced taking various drugs; and give you the opportunity to choose whether the drug results are worth the drug side effects. Also, it will help you to know if a symptom is due to your illness, or a side effect of the drug you are taking. When I was taking nursing classes back in 1973/74, they used to tell us that you should never, ever, have anyone on more than 5 drugs at a time, as at that point you would most assuredly be treating them for the side effects of the drugs they were on rather than the actual disease they had. But for some reason that seems to have changed now, and doctors think nothing of having people on 15 to 20 drugs, especially older people. I have actually watched them treat friends and family members for the side effect symptoms of one drug with another drug. Do not let them do this to you, it is your health and well being, please take time to know what you are using and why. And insist that your doctor work to keep you on the least amount of drugs as possible. While I’m not saying that all drugs are bad, you must realize that the pharmaceutical industry has the highest profit margin of any business in the US and that they only make money if they sell drugs to people, they are not truly in the business of curing people these days, so much as they are in the business of selling them drugs to be on for the rest of their lives. Too many drugs do not cure anything these days, they simply manage symptoms. The question you have to ask yourself is, “Is it worth it?”

I was raised by parents who studied and asked questions about all aspects of health. Their opinion was that the power that created the body could heal the body if given a chance through appropriate legislation regarding clean water and sewage treatment. I was never vaccinated; but was given healthy food--basically following the Word of Wisdom. I was encouraged to exercise and to get enough sleep. I have for years studied the issue of vaccinations. I have listened and watched others as they have participated and supported vaccinations. I actually have prayed about the issue for myself. I have come to the conclusion that vaccinations are not needed. Our society needs to continue to promote cleanliness in our water and sewage systems. People in general should learn all they can about issues involving health. Don't just ask doctors, who do know much about what they've been taught; but read and study the other side of the issue through people who actually do the research.

The CDC itself has proven that vaccines are neither safe, nor effective. If you have the time and determination, you can dig this information up on their website (it isn't readily available because no one makes money off of people being aware of the dangers or vaccines). Dr. Tim O'Shea has done an unbelievable job of researching the CDCs own documents and uncovering priceless information. I highly recommend reading the "chapters" on his website, as well as reading his book, "Vaccination is Not Immunization." Go to: www.thedoctorwithin.com It is a parent's responsibility to educate themselves before making such a life altering decision. Children have no voice, and this is a decision they have to live with for the rest of their lives. Doctors and government agencies make billions of dollars every year off of scaring people into purchasing their products (vaccines, pharmaceuticals, etc.). In order to discover the truth, it is necessary that we look for information outside of the agencies who livelihood is dependent on us buying into the information they supply. PLEASE do your research before vaccinating! I'm not saying don't vaccinate, just be sure it is a well informed decision. After the many years of research I have done, after training to teach vaccine awareness to expectant couples, after meeting Dr. Tim O'Shea, after much thought and prayer, my family practices natural immunity and non of our children has ever received a single vaccine. Natural immunity, for us, consists of eating the healthiest possible diet (raw vegan), keeping our environment clean but not over sanitary, connecting with nature, taking no medications, natural childbirthing, and recieving frequent chiropractic adjustments. We very rarely get sick and our children are some of the most well adjusted, vibrant, glowing children I have ever seen.

We cannot trust vaccine manufacturers, time and time again they are not truthful about their products...vaccines or otherwise. In the last year vaccine quality has been in the national news for containing major contaminamts such as cancer cells and also growing their viruses in aborted human fetuses. I chose not to trust big parma's corrupt practices. Vaccines were created for children with perfect immune systems...which is not the case for many children now....for an insightful read on vaccines from a neurologist... http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2011/07/31/dr-natasha-campbell-mcbride-on-gaps-nutritional-program.aspx?e_cid=20110731_SNL_Art_1

I left a comment on the other article, but thought I would leave it here in the Poll area too. I thought both articles were poor choices of information. The pro article gave lots lots of information that is not true and the non vax article gave no information that would be helpful for a young parent questioning the choice. The problem is not typically with vaccinating an adult that can handle them better, it is with vaccinating infants that are developing and unable to handle the ingredients being injected. Vaccines are given at such an early age that parents don't have enough time to get to know that child and developed problems are often blown off as a coincidence. HERE: is my reason.....When I had my first child I was approached with the possibility that vaccines could be harmful. So, I made the decision to take the first 6 months of her life researching, praying and fasting to find out for myself. I will NEVER forget the moment I got the answer to my prayers and it was LOUD and CLEAR. She was not to be vaccinated. The reason these types of articles up set me is not because people take the risk of vaccination or not. Vaccination/nonvaccination it's a risk either way. These types of people are taught to blame unvaccinated for anything bad that happens. In turn they are seeking blame and ignoring the experiences of people on the other side of this debate which are possibly more common and can be more devastating than a rare disease. With this, come those who want to take the freedom of choice away from everyone because of their personal fears. I have found over the years, EVERYTIME I run into controversy over this issue, it is just a matter of hours and the decision I made for my family is confirmed through the Spirit to be right for MY family. Not one piece of information I read made my decision. My decision was made 100% through prayer and personal revelation. Therefore, NOBODY has the right to tell me I made a wrong decision. As members of the LDS faith, we do believe in personal revelation and should not pass judgement on the personal revelation others recieve. The points of my thoughts are: every child is different. Every child will react different. Every parent has a personal, usually passionate reason for making the decision on this issue wether for or against vaccines. There is a Ton of misinformation and Theories out there that people except as Fact on both sides. Interpretation of the same article could be very different, for example, I took and thoroughly read all the paperwork FOR vaccines that the overly passionate doctor handed to me trying to convince me to vaccinate. Everything that stood out to me on those papers was the warnings and possible side effects. Your sources of information, family health, religious beliefs, fears, experiences, etc… are different than mine, therefore this debate should be dead and people should be able to manage their own lives and families. Parents should have to freedom to make healthcare choices for their own families. Sometimes people need to simply make a choice either way just so the FEAR of the unknown does not consume them. It is sad to me that people are not given both sides of the debate in a doctors office and bullied through education opportunities to vaccinate. I just want to be free to exercise the personal revelation that I have received through my Heavenly Father.

We have four children. Out of the four we had the first three vaccinated. When it came to our fourth we chose not too. Not because we hate vaccines, we just didn't feel right about it with her. We never had those feelings with the three before and had all their vaccines taken care of, but for some reason we couldn't on the fourth. She did get a few of the vaccines when she was older and we didn't feel that way when she got them then. We just knew that the feeling was something that we needed to listen to. We will never know what might have happened had we had her get her shots, but just knew we had to follow those prompting.

I can appreciate that certain cases will dictate a deviance from the normal routine; to this end I would include differences in health, age, and individual personal revelation or prompting. However, I still believe that vaccinations and other medical advances by-in-large have provided a wonderful health benefit to all of our Heavenly Father's children. I feel somewhat hurt by the expressions of distrust and resentment toward physicians and the medical community as careless, irresponsible, and selfish, greedy indivuduals. Perhaps you have had a poor experience with a particular physician or group and that is unfortunate, but I believe the majority of physicians and medical field individuals are very focused on the indivual and providing quality, informed, and educated care which will allow for the best quality of life possible. My own father is a physician and I have observed him as a father and physician, as I also worked in his office for 7 years. He became a physician because he watched his sister pass away from hogkins (sp?) disease. A few years later, his brother had hogkins disease, but medicine had advanced far enough in those few years that he was able to survive-- he is also a physician today. My father works tirelessly for his patients, and when he meets a case which is particularly serious it affects him deeply. He prays for his patients often at home, around the dinner table, and elsewhere. I have heard him call the temple and put their names on the prayer rolls of the temple. He prays for guidence in his work to provide the help and healing the Lord would have him provide. He sincerely loves each one of them and puts his time in for them. He is an avid reader and pours over articles and studies, he attends medical conferences and workshops, he reads the fine print and takes note of side effects and drug interactions with other drugs. He has served on national boards of medicine and been to Washington D.C. speaking with the leaders of the nation regarding different medical concerns and legislation issues. He has seen many patients in his practice who have needed care, but have had no means for payment. He is an independent physician without company backing, but he has often cared for these patients at minimal or no cost, depending on their need. One patient paid by means of bartering for services he needed on a computer, another with gardening services. I remember many Christmases when I know my father had been up late helping to trim the stockings as "Santa," but he wasn't there on Christmas because he was caring for his patients. He is often called away from dinner, absent from family outings, called away from Church, and woken from sleep to care for others. Family, friends, neighbors, and acquaintences call him at home for medical help, suggestions, a check-up, a home visit, a favor, and so on. Many years ago, we returned from a family vacation early (it was also our Christmas) because he had been called up for deployment to Desert Storm to care for people around the world. Most of the people he served there were not Americans, but he loved them all and cared for them with the same level of care and deep concern that he cared for his patients at home. We missed him deeply while he was gone, (and when he was at work at home.) We knew he wanted to be with us in our family, but he was dedicated to his patients and they needed him right then. As I worked with him, I was also able to meet and interact with many others in the surrounding medical community. Nine times out of ten, I recognized the same attention to detail and dedication to patients in these other doctors that I saw in my own father. I just felt it was important to share this side of things as well. I believe this world is still a very good place, and there are still many very good physicians and medical personal in various fields of study and practice that are still trying to do the very best they can for each individual patient. We should be cautious, but please know that there are many good physicians out there serving and giving all they have to their patients and they are deserving of your trust.

My cousin has first-hand experience with her son being affected in a terrible way after receiving a vaccine. Her son will never be the same in this lifetime. Not all vaccines are safe. Most vaccines are really not necessary. I think if one has to be vaccinated, it should be done when the child is old enough and their immune system has developed enough to handle the vaccine. Some vaccines can be helpful, but we have to be very careful in choosing the ones that are needful. Some can contain very harmful ingredients. To vaccinate or not to vaccinate is definitely a matter of prayer and personal choice. I'm grateful we still have the choice.

Thank you Shanny for sharing your experience with us "I will NEVER forget the moment I got the answer to my prayers and it was LOUD and CLEAR. She was not to be vaccinated". And thank you also Docrosko for sharing your immunobiology discoveries and sharing your personal family experience with us. I was appalled one year to see in the RS Lesson Manual a lesson telling us all to be responsible and get immunised. I felt there and then that these issues should not become part of religious instruction.

Thank you to all of you for sharing your thoughts and experiences. I am a first time mommy. My daughter reacted pretty badly to her 2 month vaccinations so I have not given her any more. She is now nearly 10 months old and I am still in the midst of the debate within myself. I am doing a lot of reading, studying, and praying hoping to come to a decision that will be best for my daughter. Your thoughts and comments have been very helpful to me. Thanks again for sharing.

In the summer of 1976, the federal government was offering free Swine Flu vaccines to everyone in America. My new bride was expecting our first child, so, under those circumstances, she felt that she should call her OB-GYN, in Provo, and ask him whether or not she should get the vaccine, being that she was pregnant. He said she should and that it was perfectly safe. The following February, our daughter was born with Cerebral Palsy, to parents who were both born and raised in the Church and always obeyed the word of wisdom and never took drugs. Chromosome Analysis showed that her genes were perfectly normal, but for some reason our little daughter was born brain damaged to perfectly healthy parents. For those who don't remember the Swine Flu fiasco of 1976, people who received the vaccine were coming down with Guiaune-Barre Syndrome, which is an inflammation of the lining of the brain, and being paralyzed. A friend of mine was in the Navy at the time, and he told me that everyone on board his ship was under orders to get the Swine Flu vaccination. He said that everyone on board the ship came down sick after receiving the vaccination except for him and one other guy. All the sailors on board were so sick that they could not even walk to Sick Bay. He said that he and the one other guy who did not get sick had to literally carry everyone to Sick Bay, until there was no more room in Sick Bay. There were so many problems with that Swine Flu vaccine that they had stop the program, because people all over the country were suing the federal government. Lisa is now 34 years old, and she functions at the level of a two-year-old. All of our other six children are perfectly normal, but then, my wife didn't get any more vaccinations after that, so why shouldn't our other children be born perfectly healthy? So, please, tell me again about how wonderful and safe vaccinations are and how much good they do for everyone. I keep forgetting.

I have a child with a compromised immune system due to medication she takes for a chronic health condition. Even though I have done everything I can via vaccinations to protect her from diseases I still worry that she will be exposed to preventable diseases such as chicken pox, pertussis, measles that would at a minimum put her in the hospital. (Yes, even though she has been vaccinated she can potentially still contract diseases.) I would beg those of you that choose not to vaccinate that you are ever diligent in making sure that when your child contracts these diseases that you keep them home and away from children that could potentially die or have lifelong side effects. For those who choose not to vaccinate I hope that you have seriously researched the lifelong side effects that even a 'healthy' child could suffer. I personally couldn't live with myself if I didn't do something that could prevent hurt my child.

I have read a couple times that parents couldn't stand the thought of their child catching a disease and having life long effects or death from it if they weren't to vaccinate. What about the thought of intentionally injecting your child with something you 'think' is safe and then they suddenly suffer seizures, brain damage, or even death. some doctors will even tell you that vaccines don't "prevent" disease, but lessen the syptoms. Like in my statement above, provaxers are taught to blame unvaccinated for diseases, even when vaccinated kids still get the diseases and pass them around. Whether vaxed or not, if someone comes down with something, stay home!

Google the phrase, Infowars: They Want To Inject My Kid With What?

don't know where my other comments went, but here's the corect church Handbook link re: health policies: (from LDS.org) 21.3.6 Medical and Health Practices Members should not use medical or health practices that are ethically or legally questionable. Local leaders should advise members who have health problems to consult with competent professional practitioners who are licensed in the countries where they practice.

I also received a revelation loud and clear not to vaccinate my child(ren). I believe the time is coming when the body of evidence against the practice of vaccination will become overwhelming. I believe one day a large majority of the disorders we and our children face will be linked to vaccination, as a large part of overall toxicity. We need to be testing the "doctrines of men" with prayer at every opportunity. Just because the Church appears to support vaccination at present doesn't mean that decision came by revelation. God doesn't answer questions no one has asked. SAINTS - study both sides! Then ask the Lord to tell you what is right! Why should we treat our medical decisions differently from our religious ones?

The Church requires missionaries to be vaccinated. It spends millions of dollars and sends out service missionaries on a regular basis to assist with vaccination campaigns in countries around the world where parents watch their children suffer and possibly die from preventable diseases. I'd say that means definitively that the Church supports vaccination. Personal revelation is awesome and perhaps non vaccinating is best for some children. But be careful when your vehement beliefs start leading you to also believe that the Church is on the wrong path or the prophet has somehow been deceived by evil and the machinations of men. Revelation for you doesn't mean it's also for everyone else.

When I was a child most of the common diseases were still able to cause the death of many children. Measles, mumps, chicken pox, as well as whooping cough and small pox were common. Many mothers would purposely expose a child to some of these so their child would catch it. It was hoped that by doing this their child would likely recover and obtain an immunity to that disease. Boys were especially exposed when young to mumps since there could be serious aftereffects if a young man were to catch it. The big one in my day was polio. Many children in my generation suffered from polio. Many survived needing only crutches since their legs were crippled by this disease. Others ended up in much worse condition. I remember visiting a child who was required to stay in an iron lung just to continue breathing. It was not a nice scene to remember. That child's only hope was a medical breakthrough which would fund a cure it didn't happen then and hasn't happened yet because of the easily used and wide availabilty of a vaccine. Polio was feared by parents as the ultimate nightmare of childhood disease. When the first vaccines came out, children received shots, with a booster every year or so to maintain the immunity. By the time I reached High School, a one-time permanent vaccine against polio had been developed. A few drops on a sugar cube and you never needed to fear this crippling and possibly deadly disease. As time has passed nearly all of these childhood diseases feared when I was a child have had vaccines developed to protect children and adults from the often life-ruining after effects of these diseases. Many of the ones I suffered through and my mother worried about are now no longer feared as before because of the medical breakthroughs made in vaccinations. Any parent who refuses to have their child vaccinated against these terrible diseases, no matter the reason for not doing so, is leaving their child not only vulnerable to catching one of these but also provides a place for the disease to breed and thus continue to infect other children and adults who may also have not been vaccinated. Vaccination is one of the best ways to eliminate these diseases from the world. If these parents would look to not only the short-term but also the long-term benefits of vaccinations they may change their mind. Are there risks? Of course. Life itself is a risk but the success rate of modern vaccines more than compensates for the very low risk factors. It is truly unfortunate that some are so obsessed with a "no chemical" life-style that they willingly allow their child to face the horrors of these diseases rather than bend just a little for the life-time assurance that their child will not suffer the disease nor the many serious side-effects. After all, it is the child who will suffer during what remains of their life due to the parent's short-sighted prejudice against using this inspired gift from the Lord who assists medical reasearchers in finding and developing these sometimes life-saving medicines. Recently I heard on the radio that public health workers in India are providing vaccines against polio to as many children as they are able to reach. They are currently using train stations with its multitudes of travelers as the way to accomplish this. Polio is apparently still a grave threat to the health of children in that country. Once a sufficient percentage of a population is immunized from a disease through vaccination the disease begins to disappear. Without sufficient "hosts" to provide a place for the disease to breed and be passed to another, it's ability to cause the disease is limited and nearly always dies out naturally. . Smallpox, once a major killer of children and adults, is as I understand it, is now nearly eliminated world-wide except for a few lab samples in a very small number of countries. The reasons to keep this killer still in a lab somewhere vary by the government and lab facilities, but I believe one valid reason to maintain a small amount is for future use as a basis for creating vaccine provider just in case it should ever re vccgain a foothold in a populationay somewhere. Vaccinations, in my opinion, m cc cccXßagAyxzqare a gift from God to enable His children to remain as healthy as possible. I do not believe it a coincidence that one of the disciple/apostles was a physician; Luke was not only a doctor but a follower of Christ and wrote a Gospel Testimony of Christ but the history of the church in those early days. If the Lord were against medical science and research I'm not convinced He would have chosen as a close disciple one whose life was devoted to something He considered to be harmful to His followers either physically or spiritually. We should be grateful to be living during a time when these terrible diseases may be all but ignored, but only if we take advantage of the knowledge He has provided. In this situation that knowledge is shown in medicine and specifically that of safe, effective vaccines.

When I was a child most of the common diseases were still able to cause the death of many children. Measles, mumps, chicken pox, as well as whooping cough and small pox were common. Many mothers would purposely expose a child to some of these so their child would catch it. It was hoped that by doing this their child would likely recover and obtain an immunity to that disease. Boys were especially exposed when young to mumps since there could be serious aftereffects if a young man were to catch it. The big one in my day was polio. Many children in my generation suffered from polio. Many survived needing only crutches since their legs were crippled by this disease. Others ended up in much worse condition. I remember visiting a child who was required to stay in an iron lung just to continue breathing. It was not a nice scene to remember. That child's only hope was a medical breakthrough which would fund a cure it didn't happen then and hasn't happened yet because of the easily used and wide availabilty of a vaccine. Polio was feared by parents as the ultimate nightmare of childhood disease. When the first vaccines came out, children received shots, with a booster every year or so to maintain the immunity. By the time I reached High School, a one-time permanent vaccine against polio had been developed. A few drops on a sugar cube and you never needed to fear this crippling and possibly deadly disease. As time has passed nearly all of these childhood diseases feared when I was a child have had vaccines developed to protect children and adults from the often life-ruining after effects of these diseases. Many of the ones I suffered through and my mother worried about are now no longer feared as before because of the medical breakthroughs made in vaccinations. Any parent who refuses to have their child vaccinated against these terrible diseases, no matter the reason for not doing so, is leaving their child not only vulnerable to catching one of these but also provides a place for the disease to breed and thus continue to infect other children and adults who may also have not been vaccinated. Vaccination is one of the best ways to eliminate these diseases from the world. If these parents would look to not only the short-term but also the long-term benefits of vaccinations they may change their mind. Are there risks? Of course. Life itself is a risk but the success rate of modern vaccines more than compensates for the very low risk factors. It is truly unfortunate that some are so obsessed with a "no chemical" life-style that they willingly allow their child to face the horrors of these diseases rather than bend just a little for the life-time assurance that their child will not suffer the disease nor the many serious side-effects. After all, it is the child who will suffer during what remains of their life due to the parent's short-sighted prejudice against using this inspired gift from the Lord who assists medical reasearchers in finding and developing these sometimes life-saving medicines. Recently I heard on the radio that public health workers in India are providing vaccines against polio to as many children as they are able to reach. They are currently using train stations with its multitudes of travelers as the way to accomplish this. Polio is apparently still a grave threat to the health of children in that country. Once a sufficient percentage of a population is immunized from a disease through vaccination the disease begins to disappear. Without sufficient "hosts" to provide a place for the disease to breed and be passed to another, it's ability to cause the disease is limited and nearly always dies out naturally. . Smallpox, once a major killer of children and adults, is as I understand it, is now nearly eliminated world-wide except for a few lab samples in a very small number of countries. The reasons to keep this killer still in a lab somewhere vary by the government and lab facilities, but I believe one valid reason to maintain a small amount is for future use as a basis for creating vaccine provider just in case it should ever re vccgain a foothold in a populationay somewhere. Vaccinations, in my opinion, m cc cccXßagAyxzqare a gift from God to enable His children to remain as healthy as possible. I do not believe it a coincidence that one of the disciple/apostles was a physician; Luke was not only a doctor but a follower of Christ and wrote a Gospel Testimony of Christ but the history of the church in those early days. If the Lord were against medical science and research I'm not convinced He would have chosen as a close disciple one whose life was devoted to something He considered to be harmful to His followers either physically or spiritually. We should be grateful to be living during a time when these terrible diseases may be all but ignored, but only if we take advantage of the knowledge He has provided. In this situation that knowledge is shown in medicine and specifically that of safe, effective vaccines.

my son has autism because we "caught him up" on his vaccines. i watched him get sick right after and slowly continued to get sicker and sicker. at age three he was in a full blown autism state. i don't need doctors or research to tell me what happened. my child is my science. i watched it happen before my eyes. my other children i have chose not to get immunized.

I chose to vaccinate my children because I lived in Cameroon and saw many people with withered legs from polio. They couldn't afford wheelchairs and pushed themselves through the streets on squares pieces of pylwood that had roller skate wheels on each corner. Also, I read my great- great-grandmother's account of when her children had diphtheria and she lost 2 children, a young cousin and her six-year old daughter had a stroke as a result of a relaspe of the disease. She never had the use of her left hand after that. My great-great-grandmother never got over the horror of her little child choking to death in her arms either. I also work in doctor's office and one of our patients came to be treated for fever and vomiting. She had meningitis and later died. I think if people saw the suffering that these diseases can cause, maybe they would be more inclined to vaccinate their children.

i have four children ages 9,6,3 and 18months. i don't vaccinate and will never vaccinate...i have breastfed all four and i feed them a very natural diet of mostly fresh fruits and veggies, nuts and seeds, very little dairy and very little sugar. i don't use a pediatrician and have never taken any of my children to the hospital for an illness. i watch my friends vaccinate their children and live in the dr's offices...watching everyone else with their ill children and their "need" for medical "care" constantly confirms that i've made the correct decision not to vaccinate. the sick children in this world are those children who were vaccinated and their poor little immune systems have been compromised and they will forever rely on "medical science" and "medicine" to live.

what about scarlet fever? why did it decrease without a vaccine?

Vaccine Infowar In Alberta, Canada Hits Mainstream Press The following Letter To The Editor by a resident of Manti, appeared in the Lethbridge Herald November 14th, 2009. The Lethbridge Herald is a daily newspaper that is distributed to all the towns in Southern Alberta, including Cardston -- as well as in the City of Lethbridge. ___________________________________ Parents Need To Be Informed About Vaccine Content Recently, I was disturbed to read a report, written by Rene Leiva, MD, entitled, “A Brief History of Human Diploid Cell Strains”. The report was copywrited in 2006 by the The National Catholic Bioethics Center; and appeared in the journal, The National Catholic Bioethics Quarterly, autumn, 2006. The paper is a seven-page-report that documents how for 35-plus years now, aborted, human fetal tissue has been an integral component in many of our current day vaccines. In fact an examination of the CDC’s own website, under the vaccine ingredient section, discloses Human Diploid Cells (aborted human fetal tissue) as an ingredient…along with a host of substances known to be highly toxic to the human body, such as formaldehyde, formalin, ammonium, aluminum…and many others. Recently, I was also disturbed to read a report, written by a very well known, respected investigative journalist…who also happens to have a law degree (“Vaccinations: Deadly Immunity”, by Robert F. Kennedy Jr. …very carefully sourced…and published in both Rolling Stone and Salon). The report cited transcripts obtained through the Freedom of Information Act – about a secret meeting that took place in June of 2000, at an isolated location; a retreat center called the Simpsonwood Conference Center, in Norcross Georgia. The meeting was convened by government officials of the CDC (Center For Disease Control); and included representatives of every major manufacturer, within the multi-billion-dollar vaccine industry. Those transcripts of the meeting, obtained through the Freedom of Information Act reveal something very disturbing: The topic of discussion was about how they knew the vaccines were harming millions of children…and steps they should take to keep that information from the public. Sadly, it seems to me – information disclosed to the public about vaccinations is more often than not, information that has been carefully screened and sculpted by those who stand to profit, often to the tune of billions of dollars – by perpetuating certain public beliefs. It is my belief that parents and grandparents should exercise their right to inform themselves through sources independent from those that stand to profit by their choices – so that they might truly make informed decisions. For documentation of the above facts and to learn more, Google the phrase, Infowars: They Want To Inject My Kid With What? Dave Conrad Manti, Utah (formerly of Warner, Alberta) http://www.lethbridgeherald.com/content ... 14455/150/ _________________________________________ Subsequent to the appearance of that letter, a letter of refutation was printed in the Lethbridge Herald, which was authored by Dr. Peter W. Dibble, Professor of Chemistry, University of Lethbridge. See the following link for Professor Dibble's letter: http://www.lethbridgeherald.com/content ... 17609/150/ Here follows, the Manti resident's response: __________________________________________ Ingesting Is Different Than Injecting In his November 20th letter, Professor Dibble demonstrates that a PHD in chemistry does not necessarily translate to a sound understanding of neurophysiology. His refutation of my November 14th letter makes the authoritative sounding statement that he would have to eat half a kilogram of aluminum phosphate, in order for it to kill him. That statement is akin to the sound bite which Big Pharma has put out to quell concerns regarding mercury in vaccines – which is, “For heaven’s sake, you get more mercury from eating a tuna fish sandwich, than you do from a vaccine.” In the real world of physiology, however – there is a profound difference between ingesting a substance, wherein most of it passes through the digestive tract and is eliminated from your system – and having that same substance injected directly into the body, bypassing the digestive system, having direct access into the blood stream via capillary uptake, and access to neurological tissue in the brain through penetration of the blood-brain barrier. The professor attempts to minimize the other primary sources of documentation cited, which includes testimony from several credible medical doctors, scientists and others, by referring only to the Rolling Stone/Salon article – which I concur, certainly is not a scientific/medical publication. In reality however, the significance of the Rolling Stone/Salon article authored by Robert F Kennedy Jr., is this: those are enormous publications read by millions of people around the globe; and they understand full well the implications of a potential multi-billion dollar slander/libel law suit. They also understand that no slander/libel can be found if the material is indeed true, and can be proven to be true in a court of law. With that in mind, they proceeded (in that article) with publishing material extremely damning to one of the most powerful industries in the world – the multi-billion-dollar vaccine industry. The article cites irrefutable proof (transcripts obtained through the Freedom of Information Act) that a secret meeting occurred between the CDC and the Vaccine Industry; and that the purpose of the meeting was that they KNEW that vaccines were causing irreparable harm to millions of children around the world…and what they could do to keep that information from the public. Again for documentation of the above facts, and many others…Google the phrase, Infowars: They Want To Inject My Kid With What? Dave Conrad Manti, Utah (Formerly of Warner, Alberta) http://www.lethbridgeherald.com/content ... 20485/150/ [As noted above, the Lethbrige Herald links are outdated and no longer work, but you have here at least the text of the pieces I wrote, which should also give you the gist of Professor Dibble's failed, refutation attempt.]

The above is an excerpt from some of what you will find when you conduct the previously referenced search.

For additional info and to hear an audio recording on the subject during a guest appearance on the nationally syndicated Stanley Monteith, MD show, Google the phrase Dave Conrad LDS Liberty . Or copy paste the following url into your web browser and click enter: http://www.ldsliberty.org/author/dconrad000/

…a technical tip for those interested, when clicking the link to the Stan Monteith audio clip: If you are using Internet Explorer it may take a few minutes for the audio file to load. It will seem as if nothing is happening…you just need to be patient and allow time for the audio file to load. If you use Firefox however, it should begin playing immediately and finish loading while it is playing.

I've had all the measles more than once as a child, and once as an adult. I had the croup, whooping cough, polio, chicken pox several times as a child. As an adult I have had the shingles twice, pneumonia three times. Each childhood disease was hard to handle and some kids died. I'll take vaccinations over the disease any day. My older brother had polio with the paralysis and now has post-polio syndrome. Disease is not good for you. Vaccinations have saved many lives. I say go get them! If you or your kids do get sick, take the medicine. Be well, not stupid.

Jooly4 -- it sounds to me like you need to drink more orange juice, or take some Vitamin D, or do Yoga or SOMETHING. You've got some major immune disorders if you were somehow able to have measles more than once and chicken pox several times as a child... Especially since getting measles more than once is impossible: http://www.vaccineinformation.org/measles/qandadis.asp Chicken pox? It's really rare, but yes you can get it more than once, but the maximum is twice and the second time the symptoms are extremely mild. Nice scare tactic, though. I'm sure someone somewhere believes that nonsense. If you say that "disease is not good for you", you obviously don't have any clue how the immune system works...

...another excerpt from some of what you will find in the above referenced search: Since neuro-specialist and brain surgeon Dr Russell Blaylock's presentation has apparently been censored, I'll share from memory a salient point or two from his extremely credible and vaccine-industry-devastating presentation. 1. As is typical with all other contagious diseases in the history of the world, the population developed natural immunity which had nothing-what-so-ever to do with the vaccine. In countries where no polio vaccine was given, the mortality and morbidity rates declined at the same rate or better than in those countries where the vaccination was given. Several other sources document this, besides Dr Blaylock. Go to page 7 of the thread, Vaccine Infowar In Cardston County: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=9764&start=180 2. The polio epidemic was greatly accentuated by the DPT vaccine. Dr Blaylock, in his presentation revealed that he had discovered from his research of the data -- that the vast majority of those in the United States, who suffered death or permanent paralysis from contracting the polio virus, had been vaccinated with the DPT shot prior -- which impaired their immune systems and rendered them unable to adequately defend themselves against the polio virus, which for most healthy, non-immuno-compromised people is typically a very mild disease with no residual effects. This is one of the Vaccine Industry's dirty little secrets they want very much to be kept hidden. They count on people continuing to believe the myth -- that vaccinations saved them from the terrible monster, polio -- when in reality vaccinations had actually worsened the polio epidemic, which through the natural course of history died out despite the vaccines, not because of them...just as it did in countries where no polio vaccinations had been given. Of course Big Pharma and their powerful propaganda machine stepped in and claimed that they had saved us. Nothing could be further from the truth. It was actually God's marvelous creation, our bodies -- and the ingenius, incredible immune systems that God placed in our bodies -- that saved us...not Big Pharma's vaccines...and that principle is even further strengthened by diligently living the Spirit of all the verses contained in section 89. Although the several online versions of that presentation by Russell Blaylock, M.D. appear to no longer be available, if one has an interest, I found one place that might still have some in dvd version for about $20.00, here: http://www.radioliberty.com/vvabd.html Having seen the presentation a couple of times in the past year or so, I highly recommend it for viewing if you can possibly get your hands on it. I have no fear what-so-ever for the coming plagues that shall surely come and for which man's puny arm, including Big Pharma and their vaccines shall not stop. The great promise of the Word of Wisdom and the protective power of the Priesthood are more than good enough for me. That is where I place my trust. If others feel the need to give themselves and family members over to Big Pharma's dangerous and evil, aborted-fetal-cell (many of them) containing witch's brew, vaccines -- that is their prerogative. Unsurprisingly, thus far, that approach has been a great health blessing to our family. None of our 5 kids have allergies or the many typical health problems that so many of their vaccinated cousins do...and believe me, there is a plague of allergies and other auto-immune disorders and neurological disorders out there, due to vaccinations...due to parents and grandparents giving into the fear and buying the myth that Big Pharma, your government, the World Health Organization, the United Nations, the eugenicist elite, the modern-day-secret-combination and their mouth-piece, the main-stream media wants you to. It should be obvious that each of those I just named, very, very much want you to vaccinate. I advocate doing just the opposite. Vaccinations are a fraud and they certainly are very, very dangerous. Sadly, I know so very, very many that have been vaccine-damaged -- permanently.

http://www.fda.gov/biologicsbloodvaccines/scienceresearch/biologicsresearchareas/ucm127327.htm Investigating Viruses in Cells Used to Make Vaccines; and Evaluating the Potential Threat Posed by Transmission of Viruses to Humans. The doctors who are telling people to get vaccinations have not done these cancer causing and sterilizing vaccines. What about the Word of Wisdom? They are putting foreign DNA and RNA from the animals and aborted fetuses they grow the viruses in, and have admitted that these diseases can be passed from animals to humans. I know we all have cancer cells because they are in the vaccines. Click on the pdf file on the FDA NON-BINDING Guidance to the Pharmaceutical Industry http://www.fda.gov/downloa​ds/BiologicsBloodVaccines/​GuidanceComplianceRegulato​ryInformation/Guidances/Va​ccines/UCM202439.pdf and someone downloaded this . It talks about tumor and oconogenic (cancer) cells in the vaccines. Then there are the poisonous neurotoxins that cause damage to every organ in our bodies. Everyone should read the vaccine inserts the pharmaceutical companies put out, and highlight what they admit are the side effects, and also research all the ingredients in the vaccines. This is totally against the Word of Wisdom, and is causing life long diseases.

The one thing I have learned over time, and that is that doctors do not do a lot of research into the pharmaceutical drugs and vaccines. There was a doctor that came on "Know the Cause" and he was recommending people get the H1N1 Vaccine, until he did his own research, and came out with his findings. I hope that doctors start doing research into the pharmaceutical companies, because the vaccines are many of the drugs are literally killing people. I know for a fact that most doctors are NOT doing the extensive research before they recommend vaccines or medications that are destroying the health of the people. I have been admitted by doctors they rely on the pharmacists to tell the patients of the side effects.

Tens of thousands of parents report that their child was born healthy and was developing normally until they received certain routine vaccinations. Suddenly they got sick with things like seizures and bowel disease. Many stopped talking and lost learned skills, ending up with an autism diagnosis. Doctors call this a coincidence. The childhood vaccination schedule has more than tripled since 1983 without a single study on the cumulative effect of so many vaccines so soon on the health of a baby. Vaccines, like all medical products, have risks. If a child is injured by a vaccine, parents can't sue either the doctor or the vaccine maker. They have to go to a adversarial process called "vaccine court" where they're up against government lawyers defending a government program using government money. Very few parents ever get their day in "court." Despite this, the "vaccine court" has paid out over $2 billion since 1986 for severe injuries, including death, from vaccinations. See FOX News report, "The Supreme Court says you cannot sue for a vaccine injury," from Feb 26, 2011. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCFOXaPFkpk Parents need to educate themselves. See the book, Vaccine Epidemic http://www.amazon.com/Vaccine-Epidemic-Corporate-Coercive-Government/dp/1616082720 and the National Vaccine Information Center http://www.nvic.org/. Anne Dachel, Media editor: Age of Autism

I stand on the side of disgust after watching my normally developing grandchildren slip into an autism nightmare following their vaccinations. The nightmare continues with oxidative stress, immune dysfunction, inflammatory bowel disease, encep[halopathy etc(for one of them as I have recoverd the other) I stand on the side of disgust knowing now that these vaccines have not been tested alone or together properly. I stand aghast at the thought of the increasing numbers of vaccines given to infants and toddlers-vaccines full of toxins. I feel sick at the thought that the government and most peds continue to repeat the mantra, " We don't know what causes autism, but we know it's not vaccines." I stand ready to throw up when I see that the government has indemnified drug companies hwne a child is vaccine damaged in any way. I am horrified that so many children (54%) today in the age of 18, have a chronic disease. Maurine Meleck, SC

I have had 3 people in my family affected negatively by vaccines, I don't need anyone telling me how safe they are when they are not. Make them safe, don't just throw anything out to the public and expect them to accept your word, its not worth anything as far as many parents are concerned!

http://www.drlwilson.com/artic​les/VACCINE%20HORROR.htm Mercury. Aluminum. Hydrolyzed Porcine (PIG) Gelatin. Latex. Peanut Oil. Aborted Fetal Tissue. Yeast. Monosodium Glutamate. Boric Acid. Egg Protein. Mineral Oil. DOG Kidney Cells... these are among just a few of the ingredients or growing mediums listed in various vaccines. Should you allow your infant to be injected with even these few? There are MANY more: http://www.novaccine.com/vacci​ne-ingredients/ The explosion of peanut allergies is directly related to vaccines. Do some research. Don't you believe Our Father created this Earth with the exact means to be healthy? The chemicals designed specifically to stop people from thinking for themselves! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MuXgpl2Sxg Heaven help us.

watermom, scarlet fever is a strep infection. it's alive and well but is treated by antibiotics.

Often children will actually contract the disease they have been innoculated against. Vaccines CAUSE the repeat infections... (For Jooly)

Well, mormons are against abortion so that cancels out the use of several vaccines as they are cultured on aborted babies. Some pro vaccine people say they haven't used any new tissue since the 60's but this is untrue. This FDA document says that in 1995 they took eye tissue from fetuses for use in vaccines (p.77): http://www.fda.gov/ohrms/dockets/ac/01/transcripts/3750t1_01.pdf Here is a study extract that says they WANT to use human fetal tissue because of major drawbacks with animal tissue: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11257414 Just look up PER.C6 if you want more info. Vaccines cultured using fetal tissue include MMR, Hepatitis A, varicella, MR, rabies, TB vaccines, and flu vaccines. They are also using aborted babies to culture experimental HIV vaccines.

We have faced childhood epidemics though-out history. With the eradication of the old diseases, our generation has seen new problems arise. The epidemics that we face now are Autism, Allergies, Asthma, and ADHD. The numbers of these disorders are sky-rocketing! (And it is NOT because of better diagnosing!!) There also things like Celiac disease and other digestive disorders. There is an increase in auto-immune disorders such as rheumatoid arthritis. PLEASE someone pay attention to these things!! The rate of Autism alone is staggering- 1 in every 110 children and the rate is climbing every year!! PLEASE someone do something!!! How can we as a society continue to just be so apathetic to this? I do believe there is a connection with these new epidemics and vaccines. Every part of me tells me that there is. If only someone with power and influence could really look into this connection, without the prejudice of pharmaceutical companies, we could stop this debate and really find out the cause of these disorders that are plaguing our children.

They gave my daugher the hep-B vaccine at the hospital when she was less than a day old, though I had told the pediatrician a month before that I didn't want her to get it. He forgot to tell the staff at the hospital. When she was four days old she started to scream constantly and inconsolably, for four days and four nights. It was vaccine-induced encephalitis, and she has autism now. I believe that autism is usually caused by an inflammatory, auto-immune reaction to a vaccine, whether inflammation of the lungs (asthma), intestines (bowel disease), or brain (autism or seizure disorders). The evidence is overwhelming, but the medical establishment is denying it for as long as possible, to keep their profits and prestige as long as they can, at the cost of permanent damage to the lives of thousands of children and families.

My son has Aspergers I personally do not believe vacinations played a role in this. But I have met several parents who saw thier child tune out. We know there is a connection that some react too or maybe it is a fluke but either way we need to take thier stories more seriously. Yes Vaccinations save lives and I vaccinated all my children but we need to look into the complex side we do not have the answer too.

My son has Aspergers I personally do not believe vacinations played a role in this. But I have met several parents who saw thier child tune out. We know there is a connection that some react too or maybe it is a fluke but either way we need to take thier stories more seriously. Yes Vaccinations save lives and I vaccinated all my children but we need to look into the complex side we do not have the answer too.

I have a vaccine injured son. I choose not to cause any damage to my other children. HOw many of you realize that according to the FDA, CDC and a retired senior scientist for a pharmaceutical company, vaccines contain aborted fetal tissue, human serum albumin (human blood), engineered human alubmin, and DNA? If you are against abortions and the use of fetal tissues in stem cell research, then you should be against vaccines. http://www.vaccine-tlc.org/human.html Which vaccines contain human protein and DNA? http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-31727_162-20049118-10391695.html Vaccines and Autism, A new scientific review (cbs news investigation) Human DNA in vaccines http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2011/07/10/this-shocking-fact-is-never-disclosed-on-any-vaccine-informed-consent-form.aspx Human DNA in vaccinations. And its not just the fetal tissues, but the chemicals such as aluminum, formaldehyde, phenol and many more. And according to the CDC website, thimerasol (50% mercury) is still in 9 vaccines.

Examples include MRC-5, WI-38, RA27/3 (also note the RA27/3 strain of rubella virus was observed to induce brain cell death), WI-26 VA4, HEK-293, and IMR-90. PER.C6 is a newer cell line developed by Crucell and licensed by Merck. According to this document, the fetus was healthy and normal when killed at 18 weeks. The mother decided to abort because she was unsure who the father was. At the outset PER.C6 was started for the sole purpose of vaccine development. This 2005 patent reads on line 0224, "Human embryonic retinoblast (HER) cells were isolated from the eyes of aborted fetuses of 18 and 21 weeks of age." (The patent is prefaced by this 2001 application assigned to Crucell). This research illustrates how the PER.C6 cell line is being promoted for use in flu, HIV/AIDS, tuberculosis, malaria, rabies, cancer, and other vaccines

In response to moriartylives: About Wakefield: The media reported that his study was a fraud. They said that it had never been replicated. The truth is that it was done 2 years prior by 2 other researchers and a presentation was given to the Royal Free Hospital. Wakefields study wasn't even about autism and vaccines. It was about gastro intestinal problems in children with autism. The media claimed that he said there was a link. In his paper he said that there was enough evidence that it shoudl be studied further. It was also reported that the other researchers on the study had retracted their findings. "We wish to make it clear that in this paper no causal link was established between MMR vaccine and autism as the data were insufficient. However, the possibility of such a link was raised and consequent events have had major implications for public health. In view of this, we consider now is the appropriate time that we should together formally retract the interpretation placed upon these findings in the paper, according to precedent." Again, the original case report itself never interpreted the data as establishing a causal link between MMR and autism, so there was no "causal" interpretation to retract. It has also been proven in court documents in Australia that Merck, the makers of Viox had internal emails where employees discuss"destroying" doctors critical of their products "where they live". MMR is a Merck product. Dr. Wakefield, Professor Walker-Smith and Professor Murch all lived in the UK at the time this study was conducted. Merck is the manufacturer of the MMR vaccines. If the Lancet case report did not say MMR causes autism, and if his collection of biopsies for research purposes was pre-approved by the Ethical Practices Committee, why is there a case against Dr. Wakefield (and colleagues)? Medical authorities in the UK (and the United States) do not like it when licensed medical professionals ask questions about vaccine safety. Licensed medical professionals and medical researchers who question vaccine safety are more difficult to dismiss than parents who notice adverse reactions after vaccination. The prosecution of Dr. Wakefield, Professor Walker-Smith and Professor Murch is an example and warning to other licensed medical professionals and researchers. The warning is clear: If you question the safety of a vaccine, you put your license and career at risk. It was also never reported that the author who supposedly found that the study was a fraud, actually committed fraud himself while investigating. Now the parents of the children in the study are going after the British Medical Journal and Deer and wanting to find out how they got the medical records. If you actually go on and listen to Wakefield about his study, you might learn something

One more thing about Wakefield, it has been said that his study was for profit. He has already proven he made no profit nor did he ever intend to make a profit off of the study. The pharmacuetical companies make billions off of their studies.

I don't like the question....Did you or would you vaccinate your child? It makes it sound like you are willing to vaccinate. It should be two seperate questions. Did you vaccinate you children? Would you vaccinate your children?

I had the same thought when I saw the poll... even though we never have nor ever will vaccinate any of our 5 children with any vaccine, ever...because at the same time I realize that there are many who did vaccinate some or all of their kids before knowing what they now know -- but have now learned and will never do so again. Many of them are still suffering the constant reminder of the aftermath in their families of their initial decision.

...so until that distinction in the wording of the poll is made, the poll is seriously flawed because of the way in which it is worded.

Whoever wrote this poll is pro-vacciation and doesn't even understand the reasons that many parents choose not to vaccinate. Here are some things they forgot to include in why many take the chance of not vaccinating: 1. Conflict of interest. Many of the pediatricians who sit on the vaccination recommendation board own patents/rights to the vaccines they are promoting, which means if they can get their vaccine on the CDC list, that's money (millions!) in their pocket. 2. Vaccine Makers are NOT held responsible for their product. Every manufacturer out there is responsible for giving the public safe products. If the products don't work, or injures someone, they are held liable by law. Why do vaccine makers have a free pass? They are not legally liable for their product, and it is vitually impossible to convince any doctor or court that you or your child's injury was from a vaccine. 3. The studies that prove vaccines are "safe" are biased and funded by the pharmaceutical companies. Again, why are other trades held accountable for unbiased studies, while vaccine companies run their studies on funding from pharma? 4. Timing, spacing, and amount. I am not against vaccines, but I AM against the CDC schedule. The blood-brain barrier, which protects the brain against poisons is not fully formed under age 2. I am for spacing vaccines out (not only to minimize the impact on the system, but so that if there IS a reaction, parents know exactly which vaccine caused it). 5. Vaccine "inserts" or product information is NOT given to parents. When you pick up a prescription from the pharmacy, giant sheets of paper are attached, discussing ingredients, side-effects, etc. for the medication. Yes, parents are given a fluffy peice of information stating the "side-effects" of the vaccine, but have you ever wondered why you are not given the package insert that comes with the vaccine? Because it lists a whole host of terrible ingredients, and the REAL side effects risks. Next time, ask for the package insert, and I will bet that they'll fight you tooth and nail not to give it to you (I've done this). So, there are some more reasons why I am "worried" about vaccines. We follow a spaced out, basic schedule, and even though I have been asked to leave two peds offices because I don't follow the CDC schedule exactly, I feel confident that this is the best choice for my children. Follow the money.

For documentation about why you don't need nor should you risk even one, single dangerous vaccination for your child, ever -- conduct the above referenced search and go to page 7 of the thread entitled Vaccine Infowar In Cardston Country.

I realize you are all passionate about this, but I couldn't disagree more with those who do not vaccinate. Sure, if you know there are issues in your family or gene pool, don't do it. My five kids have all been vaccinated. I've researched it, and I feel it's the best chance they have. Nothing is ever certain in this life. We have to use best judgement guided by the spirit. For my family, that will be encouraging them to vaccinate where and when appropriate.

For my response to Kendall, see the comments section on the main discussion thread regarding this topic, under the "ounce of prevention" propaganda piece.

Please see my last two comments at the other page>>>http://ldsliving.com/story/65437-vaccines-an-ounce-of-prevention

If I deserve the attention of any of my friends, I am pleading for it now. I'll admit it. I cry everytime I see a post that says you are getting immunizations for your children. I'll admit. I have nightmares that your child will soon have a nervous system that won't work That her/his retinas will be torn up and that they won't be able to see very well, that it will constantly be like looking through a kaliedescope. Is it any wonder that they can't socialize? I have nightmares about what it does to the intestines also. Pasty, non solveable bowel movements that leave them plugged up, in pain, and constipated; even though they have a constant flow of diarrhea. Diaper dependence even as they develope into young adults, even though many of them have exceptionally high IQs. Isn't it significant that mercury poisoning has the same symptoms as autism??!! Yes, I got my shots as a child at school, but not nearly so early in my development, and not nearly so many; and I like to think that they weren't made in foreign countries with the assurance of the U.S. government that the pharmacuetical companies can't be sued for vaccine damage. Maybe they weren't so full of mercury, aluminum, formaldehyde, antifreeze, or other choice ingredients. What I am saying is that the younger you are when you get them, the more it affects your development. Yes, I got shots for my children, and today I want to say, "I am sorry. I was wrong! I did damage!" I may have even damaged my grandchildren as they developed inside their mothers who had had their shots. You see, metal doesn't leave the body very well. Things that are injected are far more likely to stay around than things that are eaten. " I was fussy about what my children ate; but I let them get their immunizations. I heard about the dangers before my younger children were born. They had fewer shots, and later. If I knew then what I know now; they would have gotten none! Must I admit,that my youngest two seem to have fewer health problems than the older ones? No I am not a liberal; not at all. Yes, I have respect for some medicine. It has saved my life at least once. But it's number one priority seems to be dollars, anymore; even to the point of killing and injuring our innocents - regularly What about immunity from diseases? There are better ways than destroying the immune system and the rest of the body. The diseases we so fear are often safer than the shots; and they declined as clean water systems, and better living conditions became common. Even so, our infant and child mortality rates are shameful; and our childhood disability rate is staggering. Our nation is producing more disabled children than it can take care of. Some if not most of the best infomation I have gotten on autism, I have gotten from doctors. I know doctors who have not; and will not immunize their children. There is so much information out there right now. There are also forms that you can sign that will allow your child to be in school without immunizations. Please don't be fooled if you have gotten some shots for your child, and they seem to be OK. These poisons accumulate in the body. I have seen beloved babies who have been developing normally, even cooing and talking and then regress into autism later. How about all the death that shots are supposedly saving us from? . . I do a lot of family history. I am at least 5 percent Native American, from a special early tribe. My studies have shown that these people were too often subjected to the most horrible living conditions, espeically when they were thrown out of their homes in the most horrible weather, with or without clothes and food. If we were thrown into "Trail of Tear" conditions today, we would see massive death again. There are some who are punishing me for stating my beliefs. But please forgive me if you must disagree with me. I love every child I have ever met. My most precious moments are with them, at church, or wherever I am priviledged to see them.... I have seen how mean, and devestating and debilitating that vaccine damage caused diseases are. Can anyone really expect me to never speak up about it?!

I don't beLIEve in vaccines because I did the research. What finally convinced me was Vaccine Nation by Gary Null. Look up that awesome & eye opening documentary. It can be found in full online by Googling it.